Hi Laurent, On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:07:58 +0200 Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Thierry, > > On Tuesday 15 July 2014 12:52:54 Thierry Reding wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:43:02PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > > On Tuesday 15 July 2014 12:37:19 Thierry Reding wrote: > > >> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:20:02PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > >>> On Tuesday 15 July 2014 12:06:19 Boris BREZILLON wrote: > > >>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 12:05:43 +0200 Thierry Reding wrote: > > >>>>> On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 06:42:59PM +0200, Boris BREZILLON wrote: > > >>>>>> The Atmel HLCDC (HLCD Controller) IP available on some Atmel SoCs > > >>>>>> (i.e. at91sam9n12, at91sam9x5 family or sama5d3 family) provides a > > >>>>>> display controller device. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> The HLCDC block provides a single RGB output port, and only > > >>>>>> supports LCD panels connection to LCD panels for now. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> The atmel,panel property link the HLCDC RGB output with the LCD > > >>>>>> panel connected on this port (note that the HLCDC RGB connector > > >>>>>> implementation makes use of the DRM panel framework). > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Connection to other external devices (DRM bridges) might be added > > >>>>>> later by mean of a new atmel,xxx (atmel,bridge) property. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Boris BREZILLON <boris.brezillon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>>>>> --- > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> .../devicetree/bindings/drm/atmel-hlcdc-dc.txt | 59 ++++++++++ > > >>>>>> 1 file changed, 59 insertions(+) > > >>>>>> create mode 100644 > > >>>>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/drm/atmel-hlcdc-dc.txt > > >>> > > >>> [snip] > > >>> > > >>>>>> + - atmel,panel: Should contain a phandle with 2 parameters. > > >>>>>> + The first cell is a phandle to a DRM panel device > > >>>>>> + The second cell encodes the RGB mode, which can take the > > >>>>>> following values: > > >>>>>> + * 0: RGB444 > > >>>>>> + * 1: RGB565 > > >>>>>> + * 2: RGB666 > > >>>>>> + * 3: RGB888 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> These are properties of the panel and should be obtained from the > > >>>> panel directly rather than an additional cell in this specifier. > > >>>> > > >>>> Okay. > > >>>> What's the preferred way of doing this ? > > >>>> What about defining an rgb-mode property in the panel node. > > >>> > > >>> You could do that, but it won't help you much, as the HLCDC driver > > >>> must not parse properties from the panel node. You should instead > > >>> extend the drm_panel API with a function to retrieve panel properties. > > >>> The HLCDC driver will then query the panel driver at runtime for the > > >>> interface type. The panel driver will get the information from > > >>> hardcoded data in the driver, from DT or possibly in some cases by > > >>> querying the panel hardware directly. > > >> > > >> My preference for this would be that we either add this to some existing > > >> structure (struct drm_display_info seems like a good candidate) or if > > >> the number of parameters grows out of hands, then maybe even introduce a > > >> new type of device that's specific for the interface. DRM panels are an > > >> abstraction for panels, that is, interface-agnostic, and if we start > > >> exposing interface specific parameters things will start to become very > > >> unwieldy. > > > > > > I agree with the goal of keeping drm_panel interface-agnostic. However, > > > one way or another, interface parameters will need to be communicated > > > between the panel driver and the controller driver. My preference, if we > > > need to extend the number and/or scope of parameters beyond what > > > drm_display_info could reasonably contain, would be to implement a new > > > drm_panel operation to query/configure interface parameters, using a > > > structure that contains the interface type and a union of type-specific > > > structures. This would keep the API generic in the sense of not requiring > > > explicit knowledge of all interfaces in the drivers, while offering the > > > flexibility we need with a way to easily detect the interface type at > > > runtime and react on unknown/unsupported types. > > > > That's exactly what I was hoping could be avoided. If instead we modeled > > the interface type as a bus, we could for example have an lvds_bus along > > with an lvds_device and then use that as the natural place to store > > these properties. Much like we do for DSI. > > And I believe that's what we should avoid ;-) First of all, let's not forget > that Linux models control busses, not data busses. DSI is a special case as it > combines the control and data busses, but in the general case the same > implementation isn't possible. An LVDS panel controlled through I2C needs to > be an I2C device sitting on an I2C bus. > > Then, I believe it would make all drivers simpler if we had a single object > type to deal with, with proper abstractions for bus types. A drm_panel that > can model panels regardless of the data bus type, with one operation that > conveys bus-specific information, makes storing the objects and communicating > with them simpler than having to deal with different kind of devices. > Could you detail a bit what you mean by "single object type" ? Is this about making a common abstraction class (by mean of drm_xxx and drm_xxx_funcs) that could represent any display device (drm_bridge, drm_panel, ...) ? Best Regards, Boris -- Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering http://free-electrons.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html