Hi Niklas, On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 2:31 PM Niklas Söderlund <niklas.soderlund+renesas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 2021-04-21 12:43:39 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 10:05:46AM +0200, Niklas Söderlund wrote: > > > On 2021-04-15 22:09:12 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 05:53:46PM +0200, Niklas Söderlund wrote: > > > > > When converting the binding to use the video-interfaces schemas the node > > > > > port@0 was incorrectly made a mandatory property. > > > > > > > > > > The port@0 node describes which CSI-2 transmitter the R-Car CSI-2 > > > > > receiver is connected too. Not all boards connects all CSI-2 receivers > > > > > to an CSI-2 transmitter. > > > > > > > > Ports are properties of the device, they should always be there, > > > > regardless of connections. It's the endpoints that describe connections. > > > > > > I understand what you are saying and if that is the way things are done > > > I'm fine with it. As this was brought to light by a recent change in the > > > bindings I wish to understand if this was always the case the bindings > > > have been wrong all along or not. > > > > > > I only ask as because if we keep the port@0 mandatory there will be > > > board files that needs to add empty port@0 nodes as we know they are not > > > used. And as the media bindings are already quiet large for some Renesas > > > boards I want to understand this before spewing out a lot of patches > > > adding empty nodes ;-) > > > > In my opinion port@0 should be in the SoC .dtsi, not in the board .dts. > > Individual boards can then add endpoints when the CSI-2 receiver is > > connected. Would that make sense for you ? > > I think this is a case of pragmatism vs being technically correct, and > of course 'technically correct' being the best kind of correct ;-) > > Any of the two options works for me as long as we fix the DT validation > errors that currently exists. Laurent seems to prefers keeping the > port@0 mandatory and adding empty port@0 nodes to dtsi files. > > @Geert: Does this work for you? Yes, that's fine for me. Thanks! Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds