On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 6:51 PM Sven Peter <sven@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, at 18:34, Robin Murphy wrote: > > On 2021-03-26 17:26, Mark Kettenis wrote: > > > > > > Anyway, from my viewpoint having the information about the IOVA > > > address space sit on the devices makes little sense. This information > > > is needed by the DART driver, and there is no direct cnnection from > > > the DART to the individual devices in the devicetree. The "iommus" > > > property makes a connection in the opposite direction. > > > > What still seems unclear is whether these addressing limitations are a > > property of the DART input interface, the device output interface, or > > the interconnect between them. Although the observable end result > > appears more or less the same either way, they are conceptually > > different things which we have different abstractions to deal with. > > I'm not really sure if there is any way for us to figure out where these > limitation comes from though. My first guess was that this is done to partition the available address address space in a way that allows one physical IOTLB to handle multiple devices that each have their own page table for a subset of the address space, as was done on old PowerPC IOMMUs. However, the ranges you list don't really support that model. > I've done some more experiments and looked at all DART nodes in Apple's Device > Tree though. It seems that most (if not all) masters only connect 32 address > lines even though the iommu can handle a much larger address space. I'll therefore > remove the code to handle the full space for v2 since it's essentially dead > code that can't be tested anyway. > > > There are some exceptions though: > > There are the PCIe DARTs which have a different limitation which could be > encoded as 'dma-ranges' in the pci bus node: > > name base size > dart-apcie1: 00100000 3fe00000 > dart-apcie2: 00100000 3fe00000 > dart-apcie0: 00100000 3fe00000 > dart-apciec0: 00004000 7fffc000 > dart-apciec1: 80000000 7fffc000 This looks like they are reserving some address space in the beginning and/or the end, and for apciec0, the address space is partitioned into two equal-sized regions. > Then there are also these display controller DARTs. If we wanted to use dma-ranges > we could just put them in a single sub bus: > > name base size > dart-disp0: 00000000 fc000000 > dart-dcp: 00000000 fc000000 > dart-dispext0: 00000000 fc000000 > dart-dcpext: 00000000 fc000000 > > > And finally we have these strange ones which might eventually each require > another awkward sub-bus if we want to stick to the dma-ranges property. > > name base size > dart-aop: 00030000 ffffffff ("always-on processor") > dart-pmp: 00000000 bff00000 (no idea yet) Here I also see a "pio-vm-size" property: dart-pmp { pio-vm-base = <0xc0000000>; pio-vm-size = <0x40000000>; vm-size = <0xbff00000>; ... }; Which seems to give 3GB of address space to the normal iotlb, plus the last 1GB to something else. The vm-base property is also missing rather than zero, but that could just be part of their syntax instead of a real difference. Could it be that there are > dart-sio: 0021c000 fbde4000 (at least their Secure Enclave/TPM co-processor) Same here: dart-sio { vm-base = <0x0>; vm-size = <0xfc000000>; pio-vm-base = <0xfd000000>; pio-vm-size = <0x2000000>; pio-granularity = <0x1000000>; } There are clearly two distinct ranges that split up the 4GB space again, with a small hole of 16MB (==pio-granularity) at the end of each range. The "pio" name might indicate that this is a range of addresses that can be programmed to point at I/O registers in another device, rather than pointing to RAM. Arnd