Hi Saravana, CC iommu On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:55 PM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 1:33 PM Rob Herring <robh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 02:26:40PM -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote: > > > Not all DT bindings are mandatory bindings. Add support for optional DT > > > bindings and mark iommus, iommu-map, dmas as optional DT bindings. > > > > I don't think we can say these are optional or not. It's got to be a > > driver decision somehow. > > Right, so maybe the word "optional" isn't a good name for it. I can > change that if you want. > > The point being, fw_devlink can't block the probe of this driver based > on iommu property. We let the driver decide if it wants to > -EPROBE_DEFER or not or however it wants to handle this. The driver cannot make that decision, cfr. below. > > For example, if IOMMU is optional, what happens with this sequence: > > > > driver probes without IOMMU > > driver calls dma_map_?() > > IOMMU driver probes > > h/w accesses DMA buffer --> BOOM! Does it really behave that way? Or does it continue without IOMMU? > Right. But how is this really related to fw_devlink? AFAICT, this is > an issue even today. If the driver needs the IOMMU, then it needs to > make sure the IOMMU has probed? What am I missing? Individual I/O (IOMMU slave) drivers are completely unaware of the presence or absence of an IOMMU; they just use the DMA API, which is the same regardless of an IOMMU being used or not. While for GPIO/IRQ/CLK/DMA/... have request/get_{gpio,irq,clk,dma,...} APIs for a driver to get a reference, which can return -EPROBE_DEFER, no such thing exists for IOMMUs. This is handled by the IOMMU core instead. Using the IOMMU or not is more like a system policy decision. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds