On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 2:51 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 2020-09-15 22:13, Rob Herring wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 01:51:42PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote: > >> A recent attempt at converting a couple of interrupt controllers from > >> early probing to standard platform drivers have badly failed, as it > >> became evident that although an interrupt controller can easily probe > >> late, device drivers for the endpoints connected to it are rarely > >> equipped to deal with probe deferral. Changes were swiftly reverted. > >> > >> However, there is some value in *optionally* enabling this, if only > >> for development purposes, as there is otherwise a "chicken and egg" > >> problem, and a few people (cc'd) are working on a potential solution. > >> > >> This short series enables the infrastructure for modular building > >> whilst retaining the usual early probing for monolithic build, and > >> introduces it to the three drivers that were previously made to probe > >> as platform drivers. > > > > I hardly expected more OF_DECLARE macros when I opened this up. Given > > desires to get rid of them, I don't think adding to it is the way > > forward. That wrapping a platform driver around OF_DECLARE looks pretty > > horrible IMO. > > Nobody said it was cute. It's a band aid that allows us to move from the > status-quo that exists today. How would you propose we allow people to > go and start "fixing" drivers if you don't give them the opportunity > to even start trying? Apply the reverted patches and start fixing the drivers. > > I browsed some of the discussion around this. It didn't seem like it's > > a large number of drivers that have to be fixed to defer probe > > correctly. Am I missing something? > > Well, that was enough drivers for the two platforms that had it enabled > to break horribly, without a way to go back to a working state. Do you > find that acceptable? I don't. I understand reverting for v5.9, that was the right choice. But Mediatek had 3 drivers broken. Is there more to it than getting EPROBE_DEFER handled correctly in those drivers? > > I'd rather keep the pressure on getting fw_devlink on by default. > > So far, fw_devlink breaks everything under the sun, even without modular > irqchips. Most of my systems fail to boot if I enable it. So yes, it > really needs some work. And this series allows this work to happen. I think we can do something more simple here. We just need to instantiate the irqchip devices earlier to get them to probe first and not cause deferrals. That's just a matter of calling of_platform_device_create() in an earlier initcall (<= arch_initcall_sync ('=' because of link order)). Then once dependent drivers are all fixed, all that has to be done is rip out that initcall and the default of_platform_populate call will create the device instead. Rob