Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] pci: intel: Add sysfs attributes to configure pcie link

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On 10/31/2019 6:14 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
[+cc Heiner, Rajat]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 05:31:18PM +0800, Dilip Kota wrote:
On 10/22/2019 8:59 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
[+cc Rafael, linux-pm, beginning of discussion at
https://lore.kernel.org/r/d8574605f8e70f41ce1e88ccfb56b63c8f85e4df.1571638827.git.eswara.kota@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 05:27:38PM +0800, Dilip Kota wrote:
On 10/22/2019 1:18 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 02:38:50PM +0100, Andrew Murray wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 02:39:20PM +0800, Dilip Kota wrote:
PCIe RC driver on Intel Gateway SoCs have a requirement
of changing link width and speed on the fly.
Please add more details about why this is needed.  Since you're adding
sysfs files, it sounds like it's not actually the *driver* that needs
this; it's something in userspace?
We have use cases to change the link speed and width on the fly.
One is EMI check and other is power saving.  Some battery backed
applications have to switch PCIe link from higher GEN to GEN1 and
width to x1. During the cases like external power supply got
disconnected or broken. Once external power supply is connected then
switch PCIe link to higher GEN and width.
That sounds plausible, but of course nothing there is specific to the
Intel Gateway, so we should implement this generically so it would
work on all hardware.
Agree.
I'm not sure what the interface should look like -- should it be a
low-level interface as you propose where userspace would have to
identify each link of interest, or is there some system-wide
power/performance knob that could tune all links?  Cc'd Rafael and
linux-pm in case they have ideas.
To my knowledge sysfs is the appropriate way to go.
If there are any other best possible knobs, will be helpful.
I agree sysfs is the right place for it; my question was whether we
should have files like:

   /sys/.../0000:00:1f.3/pcie_speed
   /sys/.../0000:00:1f.3/pcie_width

as I think this patch would add (BTW, please include sample paths like
the above in the commit log), or whether there should be a more global
thing that would affect all the links in the system.
Sure, i will add them.

I think the low-level files like you propose would be better because
one might want to tune link performance differently for different
types of devices and workloads.

We also have to decide if these files should be associated with the
device at the upstream or downstream end of the link.  For ASPM, the
current proposal [1] has the files at the downstream end on the theory
that the GPU, NIC, NVMe device, etc is the user-recognizable one.
Also, neither ASPM nor link speed/width make any sense unless there
*is* a device at the downstream end, so putting them there
automatically makes them visible only when they're useful.

This patch places the speed and width in the host controller directory.
/sys/.../xxx.pcie/pcie_speed
/sys/.../xxx.pcie/pcie_width

I agree with you partially,  because i am having couple of points making me to
keep speed and width change entries in controller directory:

-- For changing the speed/width with device node, software ends up traversing to the controller
  from the device and do the operations.
-- Change speed and width are performed at controller level,
-- Keeping speed and width in controller gives a perspective (to the user) of changing
them only once irrespective of no. of devices.
-- For speed and link change in Synopsys PCIe controller, specific registers need to be configured.    This prevents or complicates adding the speed and width change functionality in pci-sysfs or pci framework.

Regards,
Dilip




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