Hi Rob, Mark, Attempts have been made to define an approach for describing the initial state of gpios (direction and value when driven as an output) a number of times in the past, but a concensus on the approach to take seems to have never been reached. The aim is to be able to describe GPIOs which a definitive use exists (i.e. are routed from an SoC to a pin on another device with a definitive purpose) and which the desired, and possibly required, state of the pin is known. This differs from gpio-hog in that there is an expectation that a consumer of the gpio may appear at a later date, which may take the form of the GPIO being exported to user space. Previous attempts have suggested a variation of the gpio-hogs[1][2]. "gpio-hogs" uses a node for each GPIO containing the "gpio-hogs" property, with which the Linux kernel will act as a consumer, statically setting the provided state on the GPIO line, for example: qe_pio_a: gpio-controller@1400 { compatible = "fsl,qe-pario-bank-a", "fsl,qe-pario-bank"; reg = <0x1400 0x18>; gpio-controller; #gpio-cells = <2>; line_b { gpio-hog; gpios = <6 0>; output-low; line-name = "foo-bar-gpio"; }; }; It had been suggested to either replace "gpio-hogs" with "gpio-initval" or to include a node without the "gpio-hogs" property to set an inital state, but allow another consumer to come along at a later date. A previous related attempt to upstream a "gpio-switch" consumer[3] also took the approach of defining nodes in the device tree. The conversation pointed towards a suggestion of using nodes with compatible properties, for example: &gpiochip { some_led { compatible = "gpio-leds"; default-state = "on"; gpios = <3 0>; line-name = "leda"; }; some_switch { compatible = "gpio-switch", "gpio-initval"; gpios = <4 0>; line-name = "switch1"; /* * This is used by gpio-initval in case * gpio-switch is not implemented */ output-low; }; some_interrupt { gpios = <5 0>; line-name = "some_interrupt_line"; }; line_b { gpios = <6 0>; line-name = "line-b"; }; }; An alternative that has been briefly raised[4] when I approached the subject recently on the GPIO mailing list is to add a property to the controller node, rather than child nodes, that listed the expected initial states of the pins as an array, much like the line names are handled through "gpio-line-names". I'm not quite sure how it would best to treat offsets where no special initial state is required (gpio-line- names uses empty strings). Something like this?: --- gpio.h /* Bit 4 express initial state */ #define GPIO_INPUT 0 #define GPIO_OUTPUT 16 /* Bit 5 express initial state */ #define GPIO_INITIAL_LOW 0 #define GPIO_INITIAL_HIGH 32 #define GPIO_OUTPUT_LOW (GPIO_OUTPUT | GPIO_INITIAL_LOW) #define GPIO_OUTPUT_HIGH (GPIO_OUTPUT | GPIO_INITIAL_HIGH) --- --- device tree &gpiochip { gpio-line-names = "", "", "", "widget_en", "widget_signal"; gpio-initial-states = <>, <>, <>, <GPIO_OUTPUT_HIGH | GPIO_LINE_OPEN_DRAIN>, <GPIO_INPUT | GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>; }; --- An alternative option may be to provide the offset as the first item (though this is then different from "gpio-line-names"), so: --- device tree &gpiochip { gpio-line-names = "", "", "", "widget_en", "widget_signal"; gpio-initial-states = <3 GPIO_OUTPUT_HIGH | GPIO_LINE_OPEN_DRAIN>, <4 GPIO_INPUT | GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>; }; --- I'm interested in understanding what form would be acceptable as part of the device tree binding. Thanks in advance, Martyn [1] https://marc.info/?l=devicetree&m=145621411916777&w=2 [2] https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/545493/ [3] https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/624195/ [4] https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-gpio/msg39810.html