Re: [PATCH v7 4/6] dt-bindings: mailbox: imx-mu: add i.MX6SX and i.MX7S SoCs.

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Am Donnerstag, den 26.07.2018, 17:16 +0530 schrieb Jassi Brar:
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 5:05 PM, Lucas Stach <l.stach@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 26.07.2018, 16:45 +0530 schrieb Jassi Brar:
> > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Lucas Stach <l.stach@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Jassi,
> > > > 
> > > > Am Donnerstag, den 26.07.2018, 15:25 +0530 schrieb Jassi Brar:
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Oleksij Rempel
> > > > > > > > > > > > <o.rempel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > This are currently tested SoCs with imx-mailbox driver.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mailbox/fsl,mu.txt | 2 +-
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git
> > > > > > a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mailbox/fsl,mu.txt
> > > > > > b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mailbox/fsl,mu.txt
> > > > > > index 113d6ab931ef..5616d2afca45 100644
> > > > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mailbox/fsl,mu.txt
> > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mailbox/fsl,mu.txt
> > > > > > @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ Messaging Unit Device Node:
> > > > > >  Required properties:
> > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > >  - compatible : should be "fsl,<chip>-mu", the supported chips
> > > > > > include
> > > > > > -               imx8qxp, imx8qm.
> > > > > > +               imx6sx, imx7s, imx8qxp, imx8qm.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is not scalable. Do we add every new SoC that contains the
> > > > > same controller?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, we do. This is a policy direction from the DT maintainers.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I would love to read the post/documentation.
> > > 
> > > Consider the same h/w - controller and platforms, but only the the MU
> > > chapter said the controller name is, say, 'MU121'. I am sure now you
> > > will see it correct to call it "fsl,mu121" compatible.
> > > What changed? just the name, right?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > If we
> > > > ever going to want to validate DTs against the binding, all
> > > > compatibles
> > > > used in the DTs must be specified in the binding.
> > > > 
> > > > As we can't really tell if the controller is exactly the same or
> > > > even
> > > > has some SoC integration bugs, we generally add a new compatible
> > > > for
> > > > each SoC to key off any workarounds necessary in the driver without
> > > > the
> > > > need to change the DTs, breaking compatibility.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I think if the h/w resources and behaviour remain the same and the
> > > documentation does not call it by a different name -- it is safe to
> > > assume its the same IP. Especially when the driver is absolutely
> > > indifferent to the 5 SoC names.
> > 
> > Even if it is the same IP core, the SoC integration might have bugs
> > that need different behavior from the driver. We've already had that
> > case with the i.MX6 SPI controller.
> > 
> 
> For h/w quirks/bugs, a new "has-that-bug" property makes better sense.
> Or, if you insist, a new compatible based on the first soc that has
> the buggy block.
> 

Hardware bugs might not be known at the the time the DT is deployed.
The DT is not part of the kernel, but might be part of a fixed device
firmware.

> > > If/when we find the controller changes, we could revisit the binding
> > > and add another compatible option and modify the driver to catch that
> > > and adapt.
> > 
> > That's way too late. If we want to keep DTs stable
> > 
> 
> How do you keep the DT stable by explicitly defining every new SoC to
> the compatible list in DT, _add_ to the driver.... only to have the
> driver absolutely not care which SoC is it?
> Which is the situation right now with this patchset.

It means we can later, in a newer kernel change the driver to use the
compatible to change behavior without the need to update the DT at that
point.

Regards,
Lucas
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