Re: [PATCH V2 1/3] dt: palmas: support IRQ inversion at the board level

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On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 09:34:33AM -0700, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 02/27/2014 10:58 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 02:35:42PM -0700, Stephen Warren wrote:
> >> On 02/27/2014 02:02 PM, Graeme Gregory wrote:
> > 
> >>>> +- ti,irq-externally-inverted : If missing, the polarity of the Palmas IRQ
> >>>> +  output should be set to the opposite of the polarity indicated by the IRQ
> >>>> +  specifier in the interrupts property. If absent, the polarity should be
> >>>> +  configured to match. This allows the representation of an inverter between
> >>>> +  the Palmas IRQ output and the interrupt parent's IRQ input.
> > 
> >>> This has got to be the wrong way to do things, all this leads to is every
> >>> device doing this property in its own way and having totally inconsistent
> >>> properties all meaning the same thing.
> > 
> >>> If there is some other hardware inverting lines then there should be
> >>> a generic binding for this in DT. This is not describing the palmas hardware
> >>> but some external object to the palmas.
> > 
> >> I'd be fine with removing the "ti," vendor prefix from the property
> >> name, and promoting it to be a cross-device standard.
> > 
> >> I'm not sure that many devices will need this though; most don't have
> >> configurable output polarity. Still, I guess that shouldn't stop us from
> >> creating standards for the cases where it is needed.
> > 
> > It's really common for PMICs and CODECs to be able to set any interrupt
> > polarity at least.
> > 
> >> If the DT reviewers can ack the concept, I'm happy to respin the patch
> >> with the more generic property name.
> > 
> > I'm not sure that renaming the property really deals with the concerns
> > though since drivers still all need to manually add support for this,
> > shouldn't there be an interrupt controller described in the DT which
> > just chains on to the parent with the polarity inverted to do the
> > impedence match?
> 
> I had thought of that when first dealing with this a couple years ago,
> but Olof suggested that was too complicated.
> 
> Certainly, adding an "inverting" interrupt controller into the path
> would solve the problem without inventing any new concept in DT.
> However, the inverter really isn't an interrupt controller in any
> meaningful fashion. It has no status/mask/enable/... registers at all;
> it's nothing more than an inverter gate, at least in my case. Hence, I'm
> actually not convinced that adding an extra interrupt controller into
> the path is correct here.
> 
A interupt controller inline that does the inversion was my first thought
but I think that is probably overkill unless there is a whole range
of different interupt filtering operations.

> Another alternative might be to add an extra IRQ bit in the IRQ
> specifier (and something similar would be needed for GPIO specifiers)
> that indicates "inversion between source and destination". This could be
> queried by drivers in exactly the same way as the existing polarity/type
> IRQ flags. We'd need to update each individual IRQ controller binding to
> enable that flag, since each binding defines its own definition of such
> flags. (although in practice since most use the same centrally suggested
> flags, this wouldn't be any more than just saying yes, this binding
> allows that new flag to be used).
> 
A new flag would meet my concerns of every chip doing basic inversion
in different ways.

Graeme

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