Re: [PATCH v2 RESEND] pwm: Add CLPS711X PWM support

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On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:00:46 +0000
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 03:50:32PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Tuesday 25 February 2014 19:47:57 Alexander Shiyan wrote:
> > > Вторник, 25 февраля 2014, 16:33 +01:00 от Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx>:
> > > > On Tuesday 25 February 2014 19:27:47 Alexander Shiyan wrote:
> > => > 
> > > > We really want to avoid wildcards in compatible strings. Can you call this
> > > > "cirrus,cs89712-pwm" to match the first SoC that came with this hardware?
> > > > Obviously if there was some chip before that (I'm not familiar with the
> > > > model numbers), use that instead.
> > > > 
> > > > You can either list all chips you know that have this in the driver,
> > > > or you use "cirrus,cs89712-pwm" as the fallback, and use the name of
> > > > the SoC you have as the more specific string.
> > > 
> > > It seems that in this case we will need to modify the compatibility string
> > > for other drivers that are already available in the kernel...
> > 
> > Ah, right. I missed the binding for gpio and serial going in.
> > 
> > DT maintainers, any suggestion on how we should proceed here?
> > 
> > AFAICT, clps711x platform support is still work-in-progress, so we don't
> > have any upstream users to worry about yet, but changing them is still
> > going to be slightly messy.
> 
> When allocating any new compatible strings, as Arnd says, we should
> avoid wildcards as they're usually far too encompassing and end up
> causing more trouble than they're worth.
> 
> In this case how problematic are the wildcard strings?
> 
> I assume we still have specific strings earlier in any compatible list
> in any case? If not, and there are possible differences, that should be
> fixed right away.
> 
> We have a few options:
> 
> a) Update the docs only.
> 
>    Note in the docs that "cirrus,clps711x-$UNIT" means anything
>    compatible with the $UNIT in the cs89712. This may be
>    counter-intuitive, and if a new clps711x platform comes out with an
>    incompatible $UNIT it should omit "cirrus,clps711x-$UNIT" from its
>    compatible list, but otherwise no harm done.
> 
> b) Deprecate the existing string.
>   
>    Add "cirrus,cs89712-$UNIT" to the binding docs and driver. Mark
>    "cirrus,clps711x-$UNIT" as deprecated in the binding document.
>    Replace "cirrus,clps711x-$UNIT" with "cirrus,cs89712-$UNIT" in all
>    DTs.
> 
>    This will mean new DTBs won't work with an older kernel, but as
>    support is a work in progress that might not matter. Old DTBs will
>    continue to function.
> 
>    Iff you can guarantee that the old string is not possibly being used
>    by anyone, it can be dropped from the driver. If not it has to remain
>    (though can be commented to be deprecated), so that old DTBs
>    function. It's probably best to leave it there.
>   
> c) Deprecate, maintaining (forwards) compatibility.
> 
>    As above, but rather than replacing "cirrus,clps711x-$UNIT" with
>    "cirrus,cs89712-$UNIT" in DTs, place "cirrus,cs89712-$UNIT" before
>    "cirrus,clps711x-$UNIT" in DTs. This allows new DTBs to work with
>    older kernels too. Depending on what level of support you have in
>    mainline currently this may or may not be an important consideration.

Hello.

I want to elaborate on the current CLPS711X lineup:
PS7110  - EOL October 30, 2001
PS7111  - EOL October 30, 2001
EP7209  - EOL April 25, 2003
EP7211  - EOL April 25, 2003
EP7212  - EOL April 25, 2003
CS89712 - EOL August 15, 2005
EP7309  - Production
EP7311  - Production
EP7312  - Production

So at the moment, and long enough, produced only three models of CPUs.
I am sure that the hardware with old CPUs will not be able to use the
new kernel due to memory limitations, low CPU frequency, etc.

My suggestion is to always use a compatibility string for platform entirely,
ie "cirrus,clps711x-$UNIT", otherwise it may result in misleading.

In any case, I would like to hear the final decision on this issue,
since there are several drivers already using this scheme and some drivers
awaiting applying into the kernel.
I do not insist on its position, but just want to clarify to make changes
to existing drivers and use the approved compatibility string in the future.
At the current stage, these changes will not lead to anything terrible.

Thanks.
-- 
Alexander Shiyan <shc_work@xxxxxxx>
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