On Tue 06 Feb 11:49 PST 2018, Doug Anderson wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Bjorn Andersson > <bjorn.andersson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue 06 Feb 10:37 PST 2018, Doug Anderson wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > On 01/25, Rajendra Nayak wrote: > >> >> diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sdm845-pins.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sdm845-pins.dtsi > >> >> new file mode 100644 > >> >> index 000000000000..b97f99e6f4b4 > >> >> --- /dev/null > >> >> +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sdm845-pins.dtsi > >> >> @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ > >> >> +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 > >> >> +/* > >> >> + * Copyright (c) 2018, The Linux Foundation. All rights reserved. > >> >> + */ > >> >> + > >> >> +&tlmm { > >> > > >> > I'm not the maintainer, but I find this approach to the pins > >> > really annoying. I have to flip to another file to figure out how > >> > a board has configured the pins. And we may bring in a bunch of > >> > settings that we don't ever use on some board too. Why can't we > >> > put the settings in the board file directly? > >> > >> I'm not so familiar with how things work with Qualcomm, but in general > >> I think putting this in the "board" file is a bad idea. I'd be OK > >> with putting this directly in the SoC file (though it might get > >> unwieldy?), but not moving things to the board file as was done with > >> v2 of this patch. > >> > >> Said another way: nearly board that uses SDM845 that uses UART2 will > >> have the same definitions for these pins so we shouldn't be > >> duplicating it across every board, right? > >> > > > > We've run into several cases where different boards uses the same > > function but requires board specific electrical configuration. > > > > So what we decided was to keep the pinmux in the soc-file (where e.g. > > the uart definition is) and then extend it with the board specific > > electrical properties (the pinconf), in the board files. > > > > This does come with the complexity of having the pinctrl nodes split in > > two places, but the responsibilities of the two parts is clear and we > > remove the need for all board files to ensure the appropriate pinmux is > > in place. > > > > > > NB. We did discuss adding "sane defaults" for the pinconf in the soc > > dtsi, but we end up spending considerable time debugging issues stemming > > from not having the right pinconf; so better make this explicit and say > > that the board has to specify it's config. > > Whoops, saw your responses _after_ I sent my response to v2. In any > case this makes sense to me then! On Rockchip boards I've been > involved in we often added "sane defaults", but I can see how that > could be confusing in different ways. I'm happy with your choice and > it seems like a happy medium. The sdm845.dtsi file can have the main > definition of the nodes and can thus refer to the nodes. Then you > just add the extra bit in the board file. > > What you propose is not what happened in v2 of the series > <https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10194201/> though. In v2 _both_ > the pinconf and the pinmux moved to the board file. That's wrong. > > > To make it concrete, you'd have something like this (this has the > wrong bindings from the UART, but folks get the picture hopefully): > > > In sdm845.dtsi: > > qup_uart2: serial@a84000 { > compatible = "qcom,geni-console", "qcom,geni-uart"; > reg = <0xa84000 0x4000>; > reg-names = "se_phys"; > clock-names = "se-clk", "m-ahb", "s-ahb"; > clocks = <&gcc GCC_QUPV3_WRAP1_S1_CLK>, > <&gcc GCC_QUPV3_WRAP_1_M_AHB_CLK>, > <&gcc GCC_QUPV3_WRAP_1_S_AHB_CLK>; > pinctrl-names = "default", "sleep"; > pinctrl-0 = <&qup_uart2_default>; > pinctrl-1 = <&qup_uart2_sleep>; > interrupts = <GIC_SPI 354 IRQ_TYPE_NONE>; > qcom,wrapper-core = <&qup_1>; > status = "disabled"; > }; > > tlmm: pinctrl@3400000 { > compatible = "qcom,sdm845-pinctrl"; > reg = <0x03400000 0xc00000>; > interrupts = <GIC_SPI 208 IRQ_TYPE_NONE>; > gpio-controller; > #gpio-cells = <2>; > interrupt-controller; > #interrupt-cells = <2>; > > qup_uart2_default: qup_uart2_default { > pinmux { > function = "qup9"; > pins = "gpio4", "gpio5"; > }; > }; > > qup_uart2_sleep: qup_uart2_sleep { > pinmux { > function = "gpio"; > pins = "gpio4", "gpio5"; > }; > }; > }; > > In sdm845-mtp.dts: > > &qup_uart2_default { > pinconf { > pins = "gpio4", "gpio5"; > drive-strength = <2>; > bias-disable; > }; > }; > > &qup_uart2_sleep { > pinconf { > pins = "gpio4", "gpio5"; > drive-strength = <2>; > bias-disable; > }; > }; Correct. This example does however show another thing that I really do not like; When you have a lot of nodes I find it very useful to maintain some sort of grouping, to know that I can find a node describing properties related to some block close to related blocks - e.g. nodes describing a pmic block is close to other nodes for that pmic. Today we seem to have a mixture of bus-based grouping, arbitrary grouping and no grouping at all in our upstream dtsi files, so I think we should set some guidelines here as well. Regards, Bjorn -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html