Re: [PATCH v6 05/19] watchdog: orion: Make sure the watchdog is initially stopped

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On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 05:38:09AM -0800, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 02/07/2014 02:40 AM, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 06:02:56PM -0800, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> >> On 02/06/2014 09:20 AM, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
> >>> Having the watchdog initially fully stopped is important to avoid
> >>> any spurious watchdog triggers, in case the registers are not in
> >>> its reset state.
> >>>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Guenter Roeck <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Tested-by: Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Tested-by: Willy Tarreau <w@xxxxxx>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel.garcia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> ---
> >>>    drivers/watchdog/orion_wdt.c | 3 +++
> >>>    1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/drivers/watchdog/orion_wdt.c b/drivers/watchdog/orion_wdt.c
> >>> index 6746033..2dbeee9 100644
> >>> --- a/drivers/watchdog/orion_wdt.c
> >>> +++ b/drivers/watchdog/orion_wdt.c
> >>> @@ -142,6 +142,9 @@ static int orion_wdt_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> >>>    	orion_wdt.max_timeout = wdt_max_duration;
> >>>    	watchdog_init_timeout(&orion_wdt, heartbeat, &pdev->dev);
> >>>
> >>> +	/* Let's make sure the watchdog is fully stopped */
> >>> +	orion_wdt_stop(&orion_wdt);
> >>> +
> >>
> >> Actually we just had that in another driver, and I stumbled over it there.
> >>
> >> Problem with stopping the watchdog in probe unconditionally is that you can
> >> use it to defeat nowayout: unload the module, then load it again,
> >> and the watchdog is stopped even if nowayout is true.
> >>
> >
> > Hm... I see.
> >
> >> Is this really what you want ? Or, in other words, what is the problem
> >> you are trying to solve ?
> >>
> >
> > Well, this is related to the discussion about the bootloader not
> > reseting the watchdog properly, provoking spurious watchdog triggering.
> >
> > Jason Gunthorpe explained [1] that we needed a particular sequence:
> >
> >   1. Disable WDT
> >   2. Clear bridge
> >   3. Enable WDT
> >
> > We added the irq handling to satisfy (2), and the watchdog stop for (1).
> >
> > The watchdog stop was agreed specifically [2].
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> 
> Other drivers assume that if the watchdog is running, it is supposed
> to be running. The more common approach in such cases is to ping the
> watchdog once to give userspace more time to get ready, but leave
> it enabled. So you could check if the watchdog is enabled, and if
> it was enabled re-enable it after initialization is complete
> (and maybe log a message stating that the watchdog is enabled).
> 
> If you don't want to do that, and if you are defeating nowayout
> on purpose to fix a problem with a broken bootloader,
> you should at least put in comment describing the problem you are
> trying to solve, and that you accept breaking nowayout with your fix.
> 

I'm not fond of not having "nowayout" option on our driver, given I'm sure
it's a watchdog feature for a good reason.

On the other side, I can't see how can we distinguish a previously
and explicitly enabled watchdog, from a spurious enable by broken bootloader.

Jason, what do you say?
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Ezequiel García, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android Engineering
http://free-electrons.com
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