On 13 November 2017 at 15:40, Andreas Färber <afaerber@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Am 06.11.2017 um 12:28 schrieb Ard Biesheuvel: >> On 6 November 2017 at 06:58, Andreas Färber <afaerber@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Am 05.11.2017 um 04:39 schrieb Ard Biesheuvel: >> [...] >>>> >>>> Again, I am not the one who is ranting here. You hit a nerve by >>>> accusing me of 'rebelling against linux.git' while this is quite the >>>> opposite of what I am doing. >>> >>> Actually you did confirm that point by starting an argument about not >>> needing a central repository and you not liking Linux as the location. >>> That was exactly what I meant with my original comment. >>> >>> Adding Actions Semi was somewhat easy as a new vendor and now - roughly >>> a year after the board went to market - there's Linaro contributions >>> from Mani that I'm thankful for. >>> >>> Whereas patches keep falling into a dark hole when there's already other >>> work for a certain vendor, such as Marvell and now Socionext, with no >>> one feeling responsible for either taking them or saying, "hey, we're >>> not going to submit any conflicting DT bindings for SynQuacer because we >>> use ACPI, so please go ahead with proposal X, thanks for your efforts". >>> >>> Don't complain about me ranting if you belittle my volunteer work that I >>> believe Linaro and its partners should've done in the first place: If I >>> can get an initial mainline PoC done as an individual on a few >>> evenings/weekends, then the same should be super-easy for an >>> organization with lots of engineers and paying member companies. >> >> The only person doing the ranting, rebelling and belittling in this >> thread is you. I have never commented on the nature of your work, let >> alone belittle it. > > You have stated your opinion that Device Trees don't belong in a central > repository and that Linux was the wrong place for them. Not as strongly as that, but ok. > My contributions > to Linux have been mainly such Device Trees and bindings, such as this > patch series here. Again, I don't have a clue what it is you work on, although I just found out (from the other thread you started) that it involves a Fujitsu not-quite-96board that shares IP with the SynQuacer SoC? It was my understanding (from information I received from Socionext) that any upstreaming efforts involving that SoC had been discarded. I guess the Socionext and Fujitsu engineers are not talking to each other either. > Quod erat demonstrandum. Mathematical proof usually involves inferring new facts from existing facts. You have done nothing of the kind, and I am not sure what you are so angry about, but I think it would be better to leave the emotions out of it, and try to remain factual. Especially when it comes to representing other people's statements. -- Ard. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html