Hi Mark, On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 05:32:50PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On 21/02/17 11:07, Pavel Machek wrote: >> >>> Enable support for "shallow" suspend mode, also known as "Standby" or >> >>> "Power-On Suspend". >> >>> >> >>> As secondary CPU cores are taken offline, "shallow" suspend mode saves >> >>> slightly more power than "s2idle", but less than "deep" suspend mode. >> >>> However, unlike "deep" suspend mode, "shallow" suspend mode can be used >> >>> regardless of the presence of support for PSCI_SYSTEM_SUSPEND, which is >> >>> an optional API in PSCI v1.0. >> >> >> >> If system supports "shallow" suspend, why does not PSCI implement it? >> > >> > Yes it can, and IIUC it already does on this platform with CPU_SUSPEND. >> > All it now needs is just to use existing "freeze" suspend mode in Linux. >> >> How can Linux know if using "deep" suspend will allow to wake-up the system >> according to configured wake-up sources, or not? > > My understanding is that if a device can wake the system from > PSCI_SYSTEM_SUSPEND, it should be described in the DT as a wakeup source > [1]. So we should be able to determine the set of devices which can wake > the system from a suspend. We shouldn't assume that other devices can > (though I don't precisely what we do currently). > > Otherwise, where PSCI_CPU_SUSPEND, we'd expect that most devices > (barring cpu-local timers) can wake up CPUs, and hence the system, by > raising an interrupt. > [1] Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/wakeup-source.txt "wakeup-source" in DT is used as a mix of hardware description and software policy. E.g. some keys on a keyboard may have it, others don't, while there's not always a technical reason for that. Also, it doesn't specify from which suspend state it can wake-up. On top of that, the Linux PM subsystem allows to configure wakeup by writing "enabled" to a device's "wakeup" file in sysfs. Or you can use ethtool for Wake-on-LAN. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html