On 1 February 2017 at 14:52, Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 02:54:53PM -0800, Eric Anholt wrote: >> Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@xxxxxxxxx> writes: >> >> > [ Unknown signature status ] >> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:15:10AM -0800, Eric Anholt wrote: >> >> Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@xxxxxxxxx> writes: >> >> >> >> > [ Unknown signature status ] >> >> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 09:38:53AM -0500, Sean Paul wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 09:54:49AM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote: >> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 09:01:07AM +0900, Inki Dae wrote: >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > 2017년 01월 24일 10:50에 Hoegeun Kwon 이(가) 쓴 글: >> >> >> > > > Dear Thierry, >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Could you please review this patch? >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Thierry, I think this patch has been reviewed enough but no comment >> >> >> > > from you. Seems you are busy. I will pick up this. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Sorry, but that's not how it works. This patch has gone through 8 >> >> >> > revisions within 4 weeks, and I tend to ignore patches like that until >> >> >> > the dust settles. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Seems like the dust was pretty settled. It was posted on 1/11, pinged on 1/24, >> >> >> and picked up on 1/31. I don't think it's unreasonable to take it through >> >> >> another tree after that. >> >> >> >> >> >> I wonder if drm_panel would benefit from the -misc group maintainership model >> >> >> as drm_bridge does. By spreading out the workload, the high-maintenance >> >> >> patches would hopefully find someone to shepherd them through. >> >> > >> >> > Except that nobody except me really cares. If we let people take patches >> >> > through separate trees or group-maintained trees they'll likely go in >> >> > without too much thought. DRM panel is somewhat different from core DRM >> >> > in this regard because its infrastructure is minimal and there's little >> >> > outside the panel-simple driver. So we're still at a stage where we need >> >> > to fine-tune what drivers should look like and how we can improve. >> >> >> >> I would love to care and participate in review, but with the structure >> >> of your tree you're the only one whose review counts, so I don't >> >> participate. >> > >> > Really? What exactly do you think is special about the structure of my >> > tree? I require patches to be on dri-devel (I pick them up from the >> > patchwork instance at freedesktop.org), the tree is publicly available >> > and reviewed-by tags get picked up automatically by patchwork. >> > >> > The panel tree works exactly like any other maintainer tree. And my >> > review is *not* the only one that counts. I appreciate every Reviewed-by >> > tag I see on panel patches because it means that I don't have to look as >> > closely as I have to otherwise. >> > >> > It is true that I am responsible for those patches, that's why I get to >> > have the final word on whether or not a patch gets applied. And that's >> > no different from any other maintainer tree either. >> >> If me reviewing a patch isn't part of unblocking that patch getting in, >> then I won't bother because all I could end up doing is punishing the >> developer of the patch. Contributors have a hard enough time already. > > Maybe you should go and read my previous reply again more carefully. > Perhaps then you'll realize that reviews are in fact helping in getting > patches merged. > > Interestingly my inbox doesn't show you ever bothering to review panel > patches, so maybe you should be more careful about your assumptions. > Gents, it's understandable that emotions might be running high. What's the point in pointing fingers at each other - there is enough to go in each direction. Let us all step back for a second and consider how we can make things better. I think it'll be nice to have some/most of the common concerns that Thierry/others comes across documented - in-kernel, blog post, other. Such that one can reference to specific points as patch falls sub-par. We all want to have a balance of nicely written driver and quick merge. Inki, I believe myself and others have invited you before on #dri-devel. This is another medium where you can poke devs and from my experience - it tends to be more efficient, most of the time. Thanks Emil -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
