On Sat, Jul 02, 2016 at 04:55:49PM -0700, frowand.list@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > From: Frank Rowand <frank.rowand@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > Hi All, > > This is version 2 of this email. > > Changes from version 1: > > - some rewording of the text > - removed new (theoretical) dtc directive "/connector/" > - added compatibility between mother board and daughter board > - added info on applying a single .dtbo to different connectors > - attached an RFC patch showing the required kernel changes > - changes to mother board .dts connector node: > - removed target_path property > - added connector-socket property > - changes to daughter board .dts connector node: > - added connector-plug property > > > I've been trying to wrap my head around what Pantelis and Rob have written > on the subject of a device tree representation of a connector for a > daughter board to connect to (eg a cape or a shield) and the representation > of the daughter board. (Or any other physically pluggable object.) > > After trying to make sense of what had been written (or presented via slides > at a conference - thanks Pantelis!), I decided to go back to first principals > of what we are trying to accomplish. I came up with some really simple bogus > examples to try to explain what my thought process is. > > This is an extremely simple example to illustrate the concepts. It is not > meant to represent the complexity of a real board. > > To start with, assume that the device that will eventually be on a daughter > board is first soldered onto the mother board. The mother board contains > two devices connected via bus spi_1. One device is described in the .dts > file, the other is described in an included .dtsi file. > Then the device tree files will look like: > > $ cat board.dts > /dts-v1/; > > / { > #address-cells = < 1 >; > #size-cells = < 1 >; > > tree_1: soc@0 { > reg = <0x0 0x0>; > > spi_1: spi1 { > }; > }; > > }; > > &spi_1 { > ethernet-switch@0 { > compatible = "micrel,ks8995m"; > }; > }; > > #include "spi_codec.dtsi" > > > $ cat spi_codec.dtsi > &spi_1 { > codec@1 { > compatible = "ti,tlv320aic26"; > }; > }; > > > #----- codec chip on cape > > Then suppose I move the codec chip to a cape. Then I will have the same > exact .dts and .dtsi and everything still works. > > > @----- codec chip on cape, overlay > > If I want to use overlays, I only have to add the version and "/plugin/", > then use the '-@' flag for dtc (both for the previous board.dts and > this spi_codec_overlay.dts): > > $ cat spi_codec_overlay.dts > /dts-v1/; > > /plugin/; > > &spi_1 { > codec@1 { > compatible = "ti,tlv320aic26"; > }; > }; > > > Pantelis pointed out that the syntax has changed to be: > /dts-v1/ /plugin/; > > > #----- codec chip on cape, overlay, connector > > Now we move into the realm of connectors. My mental model of what the > hardware and driver look like has not changed. The only thing that has > changed is that I want to be able to specify that the connector that > the cape is plugged into has some pins that are the spi bus /soc/spi1. > > The following _almost_ but not quite gets me what I want. Note that > the only thing the connector node does is provide some kind of > pointer or reference to what node(s) are physically routed through > the connector. The connector node does not need to describe the pins; > it only has to point to the node that describes the pins. > > This example will turn out to be not sufficient. It is a stepping > stone in building my mental model. > > $ cat board_with_connector.dts > /dts-v1/; > > / { > #address-cells = < 1 >; > #size-cells = < 1 >; > > tree_1: soc@0 { > reg = <0x0 0x0>; > > spi_1: spi1 { > }; > }; > > connector_1: connector_1 { > spi1 { > target_phandle = <&spi_1>; > }; > }; > > }; > > &spi_1 { > ethernet-switch@0 { > compatible = "micrel,ks8995m"; > }; > }; > > > $ cat spi_codec_overlay_with_connector.dts > /dts-v1/; > > /plugin/; > > &connector_1 { > spi1 { > codec@1 { > compatible = "ti,tlv320aic26"; > }; > }; > }; > > > The result is that the overlay fixup for spi1 on the cape will > relocate the spi1 node to /connector_1 in the host tree, so > this does not solve the connector linkage yet: > > -- chunk from the decompiled board_with_connector.dtb: > > __symbols__ { > connector_1 = "/connector_1"; > }; > > -- chunk from the decompiled spi_codec_overlay_with_connector.dtb: > > fragment@0 { > target = <0xffffffff>; > __overlay__ { > spi1 { > codec@1 { > compatible = "ti,tlv320aic26"; > }; > }; > }; > }; > __fixups__ { > connector_1 = "/fragment@0:target:0"; > }; > > > After applying the overlay, the codec@1 node will be at > /connector_1/spi1/codec@1. What I want is for that node > to be at /spi1/codec@1. > > > > #----- magic new syntax > > What I really want is some way to tell dtc that I want to do one > level of dereferencing when resolving the path of device nodes > contained by the connector node in the overlay dts. > > Version 1 of this email suggested using dtc magic to do this extra > level of dereferencing. This version of the email has changed to > have the kernel code that applies the overlay do the extra level > of dereferencing. > > The property "connector-socket" tells the kernel overlay code > that this is a socket. The overlay code does not actually > do anything special as a result of this property; it is simply > used as a sanity check that this node really is a socket. The > person writing the mother board .dts must provide the > target_phandle property, which points to a node responsible for > some of the pins on the connector. > > The property "connector-plug" tells the kernel overlay code > that each child node in the overlay corresponds to a node in the > socket, and the socket will contain one property that is > a phandle pointing to the node that is the target of that child > node in the overlay node. > > > $ cat board_with_connector_v2.dts > > /dts-v1/; > > / { > #address-cells = < 1 >; > #size-cells = < 1 >; > > tree_1: soc@0 { > reg = <0x0 0x0>; > > spi_1: spi1 { > }; > }; > > connector_1: connector_1 { > compatible = "11-pin-accessory"; > connector-socket; I don't see any advantage to allowing connectors anywhere in the tree: pretty much by definition a connector is a "whole board" concept. So I think instead they should all go in a new special node under the root, say /connectors. With that done, you don't need the connector-socket tag any more. > spi1 { > target_phandle = <&spi_1>; > }; > }; > > }; > > &spi_1 { > ethernet-switch@0 { > compatible = "micrel,ks8995m"; > }; > }; > > > $ cat spi_codec_overlay_with_connector_v2.dts > > /dts-v1/; > > /plugin/; > > &connector_1 { > connector-plug; > compatible = "11-pin-accessory"; > > spi1 { > codec@1 { > compatible = "ti,tlv320aic26"; > }; > }; > }; > > > The spi_codec_overlay_with_connector_v2.dtb __fixups__ information > is unchanged from the previous example, but the kernel overlay > code will do the correct extra level of dereferencing when it > detects the connector-plug property in the overlay. > > The one remaining piece that this patch does not provide is how > the overlay manager (which does not yet exist in the mainline > tree) can apply an overlay to two different targets. That > final step should be a trivial change to of_overlay_create(), > adding a parameter that is a mapping of the target (or maybe > even targets) in the overlay to different targets in the > active device tree. > > This seems like a more straight forward way to handle connectors. > > First, ignoring pinctrl and pinmux, what does everyone think? > > Then, the next step is whether pinctrl and pinmux work with this method. > Pantelis, can you point me to a good example for > > 1) an in-tree board dts file > 2) an overlay file (I am assuming out of tree) that applies to the board > 3) an in-tree .dtsi file that would provide the same features as > the overlay file if it was included by the board dts file > > It should be easier to discuss pinctrl and pinmux with an example. Hrm.. so I think you're trying to stick too close to the existing overlay model. Something I've always disliked about that model is that the plugin can overlay *anywhere* in the master tree, meaning it must have intimate knowledge of that tree. Instead of using the global __symbols__, there should be a set of "symbols" local to the specific connector (socket), which are the *only* points which the plugin is allowed to overlay or reference. Given that we're going to need new code to support this new connector model, I think we should also fix some of the uglies in the current overlay format while we're at it. I have to run now, but I'll try to send out a counter-proposal shortly. -- David Gibson | I'll have my music baroque, and my code david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au | minimalist, thank you. NOT _the_ _other_ | _way_ _around_! http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson
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