Hi All, I've been trying to wrap my head around what Pantelis and Rob have written on the subject of a device tree representation of a connector for a daughter board to connect to (eg a cape or a shield) and the representation of the daughter board. (Or any other physically pluggable object.) After trying to make sense of what had been written (or presented via slides at a conference - thanks Pantelis!), I decided to go back to first principals of what we are trying to accomplish. I came up with some really simple bogus examples to try to explain what my thought process is. To start with, assume that the device that will eventually be on a daughter board is first soldered onto the main board. Then the device tree will look like: $ cat board.dts /dts-v1/; / { #address-cells = < 1 >; #size-cells = < 1 >; tree_1: soc@0 { reg = <0x0 0x0>; spi_1: spi1 { }; }; }; &spi_1 { ethernet-switch@0 { compatible = "micrel,ks8995m"; }; }; #include "spi_codec.dtsi" $ cat spi_codec.dtsi &spi_1 { codec@1 { compatible = "ti,tlv320aic26"; }; }; #----- codec chip on cape Then suppose I move the codec chip to a cape. Then I will have the same exact .dts and .dtsi and everything still works. @----- codec chip on cape, overlay If I want to use overlays, I only have to add the version and "/plugin/", then use the '-@' flag for dtc (both for the previous board.dts and this spi_codec_overlay.dts): $ cat spi_codec_overlay.dts /dts-v1/; /plugin/; &spi_1 { codec@1 { compatible = "ti,tlv320aic26"; }; }; #----- codec chip on cape, overlay, connector Now we move into the realm of connectors. My mental model of what the hardware and driver look like has not changed. The only thing that has changed is that I want to be able to specify that the connector that the cape is plugged into has some pins that are the spi bus /soc/spi1. The following _almost_ but not quite gets me what I want. Note that the only thing the connector node does is provide some kind of pointer or reference to what node(s) are physically routed through the connector. (This node will turn out to not actually work in this example.) $ cat board_with_connector.dts /dts-v1/; / { #address-cells = < 1 >; #size-cells = < 1 >; tree_1: soc@0 { reg = <0x0 0x0>; spi_1: spi1 { }; }; connector_1: connector_1 { spi1 { target_phandle = <&spi_1>; target_path = "/soc/spi1"; }; }; }; &spi_1 { ethernet-switch@0 { compatible = "micrel,ks8995m"; }; }; $ cat spi_codec_overlay_with_connector.dts /dts-v1/; /plugin/; &connector_1 { spi1 { codec@1 { compatible = "ti,tlv320aic26"; }; }; }; The result is that the overlay fixup for spi1 on the cape will relocate the spi1 node to /connector_1 in the host tree, so this does not solve the connector linkage yet: -- chunk from the decompiled board_with_connector.dtb: __symbols__ { connector_1 = "/connector_1"; }; -- chunk from the decompiled spi_codec_overlay_with_connector.dtb: fragment@0 { target = <0xffffffff>; __overlay__ { spi1 { codec@1 { compatible = "ti,tlv320aic26"; }; }; }; }; __fixups__ { connector_1 = "/fragment@0:target:0"; }; #----- magic new dtc syntax What I really want is some way to tell dtc that I want to do one level of dereferencing when resolving the path of device nodes contained by the connector node in the overlay dts. The exact syntax does not matter here, I am just trying to get the concept. I will add the not yet implemented dtc feature of "/connector/" to the connector node in both the tree dts and the overlay dts, and show how the output of dtc would change. The "/connector/" directive tells dtc that for a base dts (hand waving how it knows base vs overlay dts file) to look into each node at that level and determine what other node it maps to (again, hand waving, in this example just to show the linkage, I have hard coded both the path and the phandle of the target node that the connector child node maps to). The "/connector/" directive tells dtc that for an overlay dts (again hand waving) to provide a fixup for each child node. $ cat board_with_connector_v2.dts /dts-v1/; / { #address-cells = < 1 >; #size-cells = < 1 >; tree_1: soc@0 { reg = <0x0 0x0>; spi_1: spi1 { }; }; connector_1: connector_1 { /connector/; spi1 { target_phandle = <&spi_1>; target_path = "/soc/spi1"; }; }; }; &spi_1 { ethernet-switch@0 { compatible = "micrel,ks8995m"; }; }; $ cat spi_codec_overlay_with_connector_v2.dts /dts-v1/; /plugin/; &connector_1 { /connector/; spi1 { codec@1 { compatible = "ti,tlv320aic26"; }; }; }; -- chunk from the decompiled board_with_connector_v2.dtb: __symbols__ { connector_1 { spi1 = "/soc@0/spi1"; }; }; -- chunk from the decompiled spi_codec_overlay_with_connector_v2.dtb: / { fragment@0 { target = <0xffffffff>; __overlay__ { spi1 { codec@1 { compatible = "ti,tlv320aic26"; }; }; }; }; __fixups__ { connector_1 { spi1 = "/fragment@0/__overlay__:spi1:0"; }; }; Of course the overlay loader will also have to be modified to understand the new information. Exact format of the __symbols__ and __fixups__ are implementation details, I am just trying to present the model. Ignoring device tree source syntax and dtc implementation issues, does this conceptual model look more straight forward and a better direction for how to represent connectors? -Frank -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html