On Friday 15 November 2013, Olof Johansson wrote: > So, I'm strongly urging that whatever the server guys try to do, it > will in the end result in the ACPI data being translated into DT > equivalents, such that the kernel only needs to handle data via DT. I don't think that a translation layer is the answer, I see the problem more in things that cannot be translated automatically. The parts that are similar enough to allow translation could also just be handled by a thin abstraction layer in the kernel, which I think we will see on embedded x86 with DT-in-ACPI-syntax. I think we can still treat ACPI on ARM64 as a beginner's mistake and provide hand-written DT blobs for the few systems that start shipping with that. The main reason for doing it in the first place was the expected number of Windows RT servers, but WinRT isn't doing well at the moment, so it's not unreasonable to assume it's going the same way as WinRT tablets. During the kernel summit, Grant (as one of the proponents of doing ACPI on ARM) already mentioned that he only sees this as viable on PC-like systems. My feeling is that when (if?) AMD or someone else comes out with a server system where they basically replace the x86 core with an ARM one but keep the system design, there won't be much to describe in terms of internal components anyway, and also no need to translate a lot of device information -- everything is already a PCI device in that case and does not get handled through the platform bus. However, until we see code or system-level specs for such a system, I'd rather keep ACPI out of the ARM kernel so we don't give people the wrong ideas. Arnd -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html