On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 09:14:17PM -0400, Rob Clark wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 5:27 AM, Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> If a subsystem doesn't work well with DT, then the choices are either: >> >> >> >> (a) don't use DT with the subsystem >> > >> > The underlying problem has nothing to do with DT. Multi component >> > hardware does exist and won't vanish when we stop using DT. >> > >> >> (b) fix the subsystem >> > >> > I'd love to do that. Step one to this seems to be to increase the >> > awareness that there's something wrong with DRM. >> >> >> Note that I suspect your idea of "fixing drm" is going to break some >> userspace assumptions about the hw (ie. userspace isn't expecting >> crtcs/encoders/connectors to suddenly appear/disappear. And the funny >> thing is, on all of this hw, that isn't going to happen anyways. > > I was talking about all SoC DRM drivers implementing variants of the > same glue between drm and the multidevice nature of the components. > > To make that sure: I never had the intention to implement hotplug for > drm. Also what the imx-drm driver does is not for hotplug, but only for > binding different components together. ahh, ok. Yeah, we do need some way to make this easier, as it is a too-common pattern. I do think we do need a way to know if something is missing because it isn't there vs it hasn't been probed yet. Ie. late_initcall() is not the awesome solution. BR, -R > Sascha > > -- > Pengutronix e.K. | | > Industrial Linux Solutions | http://www.pengutronix.de/ | > Peiner Str. 6-8, 31137 Hildesheim, Germany | Phone: +49-5121-206917-0 | > Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 | Fax: +49-5121-206917-5555 | -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html