On 3/16/19 1:22 PM, Måns Rullgård wrote: > Marek Vasut <marex@xxxxxxx> writes: > >> On 3/15/19 10:52 PM, Tim Harvey wrote: >>> Tim Harvey - Principal Software EngineerGateworks Corporation - >>> http://www.gateworks.com/3026 S. Higuera St. San Luis Obispo CA >>> 93401805-781-2000 >>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 4:39 AM Måns Rullgård <mans@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> Douglas Anderson <dianders@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >>>> >>>>> This series picks patches from various different places to produce what >>>>> I consider the best solution to getting consistent mmc and mmcblk >>>>> ordering. >>>>> >>>>> Why consistent ordering and why not just use UUIDs? IMHO consistent >>>>> ordering solves a few different problems: >>>>> >>>>> 1. For poor, feeble-minded humans like me, have sane numbering for >>>>> devices helps a lot. When grepping through dmesg it's terribly handy >>>>> if a given SDMMC device has a consistent number. I know that I can >>>>> do "dmesg | grep mmc0" or "dmesg | grep mmcblk0" to find info about >>>>> the eMMC. I know that I can do "dmesg | grep mmc1" to find info >>>>> about the SD card slot. I don't want it to matter which one probed >>>>> first, I don't want it to matter if I'm working on a variant of the >>>>> hardware that has the SD card slot disabled, and I don't want to care >>>>> what my boot device was. Worrying about what device number I got >>>>> increases my cognitive load. >>>>> >>>>> 2. There are cases where it's not trivially easy during development to >>>>> use the UUID. Specifically I work a lot with coreboot / depthcharge >>>>> as a BIOS. When configured properly, that BIOS has a nice feature to >>>>> allow you to fetch the kernel and kernel command line from TFTP by >>>>> pressing Ctrl-N. In this particular case the BIOS doesn't actually >>>>> know which disk I'd like for my root filesystem, so it's not so easy >>>>> for it to put the right UUID into the command line. For this >>>>> purpose, knowing that "mmcblk0" will always refer to eMMC is handy. >>>>> >>>>> Changes in v2: >>>>> - Rebased atop mmc-next >>>>> - Stat dynamic allocation after fixed allocation; thanks Wolfram! >>>>> - rk3288 patch new for v2 >>>>> >>>>> Douglas Anderson (1): >>>>> ARM: dts: rockchip: Add mmc aliases for rk3288 platform >>>>> >>>>> Jaehoon Chung (1): >>>>> Documentation: mmc: Document mmc aliases >>>>> >>>>> Stefan Agner (2): >>>>> mmc: read mmc alias from device tree >>>>> mmc: use SD/MMC host ID for block device name ID >>>>> >>>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc.txt | 11 +++++++++++ >>>>> arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288.dtsi | 4 ++++ >>>>> drivers/mmc/card/block.c | 2 +- >>>>> drivers/mmc/core/host.c | 17 ++++++++++++++++- >>>>> 4 files changed, 32 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >>>> >>>> Did anyone ever come up with an acceptable solution for this? After >>>> three years, I'm getting tired of rebasing these patches onto every new >>>> kernel. >>>> >>>> UUIDs or similar are NOT an option for multiple reasons: >>>> >>>> - We have two rootfs partitions for ping-pong updates, so simply >>>> referring to "the thing with ID foo" doesn't work. >>>> >>>> - Installing said updates needs direct access the device/partition, >>>> which may not even have a filesystem. >>>> >>>> - The u-boot environment is stored in an eMMC "boot" partition, and >>>> userspace needs to know where to find it. >>>> >>>> I'm sure I'm not the only one in a similar situation. >>>> >>>> Russel, feel free to shout abuse at me. I don't care, but it makes you >>>> look stupid. >>>> >>> >>> Completely agree here - we need a dt solution that allows us to >>> specify ordering. >> >> Nope, ordering would be a policy and does not describe hardware, thus it >> shouldn't be in the DT. Use UUID or PARTUUID, they apply both to raw FS >> (fsuuid) and to partitions (part uuid). Linux kernel can mount FS using >> PARTUUID, to support UUID you need initramfs. > > That doesn't address how to find eMMC boot partitions. If you have a FS or partition table there, it does. If you don't, I agree ... that's a problem. > I don't care the slightest what the numbering is, as long as it is > stable. On some hardware, with an unpatched kernel, the mmc device > numbering changes depending on whether or not an SD card is inserted on > boot. Getting rid of that behaviour is really all I want. Agreed, that would be an improvement. -- Best regards, Marek Vasut