Hi Arnd,
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Friday 28 March 2014 09:39:22 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Friday 28 March 2014 09:09:23 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> >> On the Renesas SoCs, where this thread started, you also have different
>> >> types of IP blocks providing similar functionality on the same SoC.
>> >> E.g. 3 types of serial ports, 2 types of i2c, (at least) 2 types of spi...
>> >> Hence one more level of confusion (is SoC serial0 the first serial port of
>> >> type A, B, or C?).
>> >
>> > The 'serial' aliases are defined to refer to UARTs only, there is no debate
>> > about that.
>>
>> All 3 serial port types are UARTs.
>>
>> For the serial ports, they are sufficiently similar to use the same driver.
>> For i2c and spi, that's not the case, and they use different drivers.
>
> Ok, I see. I just misunderstood what you meant.
>
> The aliases are really meant to put all the uarts into a flat numbering space,
> regardless of the driver, and you can mix them them in any possible way. If
> a board uses one uart of each type, then serial0 through serial2 should
> point to the three that are used, but not the ones that aren't connected.
So we should move all aliases from *.dtsi to <board>.dts.
> Unfortunately, the Linux uart naming system doesn't work well with that,
> because you'd end up with something like /dev/ttyA0, /dev/ttyC1, /dev/ttyB2
> for the case that you are using the A, C and B drivers in that order.
> I would argue that we should try to fix it by changing the way that Linux
> allocates the names (in a backwards compatible way of course), not by changing
> the DT binding.
Yes!
> Using a separate name space for each driver keeps causing more problems than
> it solves, and we really should be addressing this. One way to do this
> that I think would handle it nicely is to make it optional for a uart_driver
> to provide a major/minor number range and device name for
> uart_register_driver, and move the ttyS%d namespace handling from the 8250
> driver into serial_core.c. There are a couple of open questions regarding
> how to implement backwards compatibility with the existing behavior, but
> I think it can be done.
Not serial_core.c. That's deprecated for new drivers, and we want a common
namespace across all serial drivers.
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
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