We had two topics of note today. Ernesto wanted to discuss standards around HEALTH_WARN versus HEALTH_ERR versus HEALTH_OKAY, since we historically distinguished those on the availability and durability of data, but are starting to extend it to additional features — specifically, Grafana in https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/46925. We figured that was fine since generally these additional features support data availability. Also, admins can mute warnings and errors they aren't interested in. Next, we discussed ongoing issues in the sepia lab's testing infrastructure. This is fallout from the switch to C++20. We have known for a while that we need to switch the Jenkins builders to use containerized builds for repeatability and safety, instead of relying on installing packages on static hosts. Ernesto has an existing PR in progress to do containerized builds and said he could resurrect that — https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/46071. David volunteered his group to help with the container-internal aspects as well. Hopefully this will bear fruit and stabilize us against issues when enabling new features and dependencies in the future. -Greg _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list -- dev@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to dev-leave@xxxxxxx