Re: need your help on a ceph pr

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It would be quite a large amount of work.  I don't think it's worthwhile.
-Sam

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 11:07 AM Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 1:19 PM 郭 明 <guoracle@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ilya,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply and valuable insights.
> >
> > If the data in the EC pool is not modified after being written, and only supports reading, can the replica OSD support BALANCE_READS or LOCALIZE_READS by acting as the primary OSD (same as the primary OSD, reading multiple data chunks, just sharing the pressure of the primary OSD) ?
>
> In theory, yes -- something like that could be implemented but the
> "not modified after being written" part is a pretty big assumption
> and I don't know how complicated the implementation would be.
>
> Thanks,
>
>                 Ilya
>
> >
> >
> > All the best,
> >      guoming
> > ________________________________
> > 发件人: Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@xxxxxxxxx>
> > 发送时间: 2022年2月21日 17:21
> > 收件人: 郭 明 <guoracle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > 抄送: dev <dev@xxxxxxx>; Samuel Just <sjust@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > 主题: Re: need your help on a ceph pr
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:12 PM 郭 明 <guoracle@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Dryomov,
> > > How is your life going?
> > > I have some questions about the follow pr:
> > >  https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/35326
> > > Objecter: don't attempt to read from non-primary on EC pools by idryomov · Pull Request #35326 · ceph/ceph
> > > With BALANCE_READS or LOCALIZE_READS set, the client will hang if the non-primary OSD is picked because the OSD will most likely drop the op (or start waiting for peering that won't actually happen...
> > > github.com
> > > 
> > >
> > > 1). Could you tell me more details of the reason about "the OSD will most likely drop
> > > the op (or start waiting for peering that won't actually happen)" ?
> >
> > Hi guoming,
> >
> > In the EC pool case, all OSDs in the PG have different data.  If
> > a read is directed at a non-primary OSD, it simply may not have the
> > data available.  And if it turns out to have the required EC chunk,
> > servicing a read with that data would most likely be unsafe.
> >
> > >
> > > 2).Why only EC pool has this problem, and replicated pool does not have this problem?
> >
> > In the replicated pool case, all OSDs in the PG have the same data, so
> > theoretically any OSD has the ability to service any read.  But even in
> > the replicated case there are safety issues.  Prior to this [1] change
> > by Sam, BALANCE_READS and LOCALIZE_READS flags were unsafe for general
> > use and after it there are still a couple of cases when the OSD either
> > drops the op or returns EAGAIN, expecting the client to resend it to
> > the primary because otherwise wrong data could be returned to the
> > client.
> >
> > I'm adding Sam for more details.
> >
> > >
> > > 3).Is this solution unique? Can this problem be solved by modifying the OSD module?
> >
> > If you are asking whether the OSD can be modified to support
> > BALANCE_READS or LOCALIZE_READS on EC pools, the answer is no
> > because each OSD stores its own EC chunk.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/32381
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >                 Ilya
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