Re: "This branch is out-of-date with the base branch"

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This was probably me, and an accident.  I went in to reenable the
submodule check and found that none of the checks were marked as
required, and I remember being confused about whether that one should
be checked or not.

sage

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 5:03 AM kefu chai <tchaikov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 4:24 PM Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 6:04 AM kefu chai <tchaikov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > hi folks,
> > >
> > > "This branch is out-of-date with the base branch" this message started
> > > to show up in the github PR web pages recently. and next to it is an
> > > "Update branch" button.
> > >
> > > i think the reason is that some of us change the per-branch "Branch
> > > protection rule" of "master" branch of ceph project in github. there
> > > is an option named "Require branches to be up to date before merging",
> > > if it is enabled, per the description of this policy:
> > >
> > > > This ensures pull requests targeting a matching branch have been tested with the latest code. This setting will not take effect unless at least one status check is enabled (see below).
> > >
> > > in other words,
> > >
> > > 1. it's required to pass some status checks to merge a PR
> > > 2. if another change is merged after all the status checks passed in
> > > your PR, these status checks results are invalidated, and you are
> > > supposed to rebase your change against master. and the repush
> > > re-triggers the status checks. the new result is used
> > > as a prerequisite of merging the PR instead of the old one.
> > >
> > > i see there is a good reason to enable the option. as it helps to
> > > prevent us from merging conflicting changes whose status checks pass
> > > individually. but these changes could break build or test if they are
> > > tested together.
> > >
> > > but the downside is:
> > >
> > > - developers are tempted to push the "Update branch" button next to
> > > the warning message. this helps the change to comply the "up to date
> > > before merging" policy, but it breaks our policy requiring a PR to
> > > avoid including any merge commit in it.
> > > because it introduces a merge commit into the PR in question.
> > > - the extra overhead of rebasing and repushing dance.
> > >
> > > is it a plausible alternative to require the maintainer who pushes the
> > > merge button to retrigger the test if the change to be merged is kind
> > > of old? i know, it's difficult to measure "old", and it's difficult to
> > > enforce a policy like this instead of leaving it to a system.. but
> > > it's more sustainable this way, i think.
> > >
> > > BTW, i think, the "stale test result of a snapshot" issue also applies
> > > to the integration test, a.k.a., qa suite test.
> >
> > Yes, it is not only plausible but actually the only way to go in my
> > option.  "Require branches to be up to date before merging" is pretty
> > useless for us precisely because the bulk of our testing is integration
> > testing and that is a manual process completely up to the maintainer.
> > If a "make check" test gets accidentally broken by another merge, it is
> > noticed and fixed up almost immediately.  If an integration test gets
> > broken, it can take a couple days...  The way I see it, the only thing
> > "Require branches to be up to date before merging" is going to get us
> > is having to chase down and ask contributors to get rid of generated
> > merge commits.
> >
> > I suspect it was enabled by mistake because if you accidentally remove
> > the status checks and then go re-enable them, "Require branches to be up
> > to date before merging" gets set automatically and must be ticked off.
>
> Ilya, thank you for your valuable input. unticked.
>
> if this was an intentional change, let's continue the discussion in this thread.
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >                 Ilya
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Kefu Chai
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