Ceph Leadership Team meeting 2021-05-26

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Hi everyone,

Highlights from this week:

* Ceph User Survey '21: Dashboard analysis
* Some responses looked contradictory (responding not using the
dashboard and then reporting a 5/5 rating)
* Would you recommend dashboard?
 - average 6.75
 - median 8
* Does the dashboard allow you to perform tasks faster than cli?
 - No 52
 - Yes 48
* What's most used in the dashboard
 - landing page
 - iscsi and NFS least used
 - RBD > Cephfs consistent Ceph-wise usage
 - RGW should rank higher than cephfs 62% vs 54%
* Detractors still use the landing page, cluster logs, mon status, and
grafana dashboards
* Dashboard user Profiles
 - Haven't used the dashboard yet
   - Older versions of Ceph Dashboard
   - Documentation issues?
     - Getting started doc refers to the CLI
 - Performance concerns?
* monitoring only
 - Read-only mode
 - Fear of breaking things?
* promoters
* CLI junkies
 - Claim: "CLI is faster, easy to remember and scriptable
   - Dashboard provides bulk ops and multi-step workflows
     - API recorder in OpenAttic:
https://github.com/openattic/openattic/search?q=recorder
   - Dashboard maps 1:1 to Ceph CLI
* other mgmt tools
 - Using Ceph-ansible, Puppet, Rook
 - Other
   - Proxmox
   - Nagios
* Actions
 - Focus efforts on the landing page and cluster logs
 - Increase inline docs and contextual helpers
 - Add support for bulk ops
 - Rest API recorder: generate a script from UI actions
 - Publicize dashboard in Ceph blog, tech talks.
* Ceph.io website updates
 - The working group's ideal launch date is June 24th
 - Content needed for pages
 - https://dev.ceph.io/en/
* Market Development Working Group
 - The group would like to be more connected with the CLT on the
roadmap for releases.
 - they meet once a month.
 - they're interested in roadmaps, blog posts,
 - Mike: send out pad for gathering high level features/improvements
in Quincy roadmap
* NFS questions on dev@ need answers...
 - ganesha and dir_chunk=0 - problematic for RGW exports
* GSOC onboarding / collaboration
 - ali to organize
octopus: subinterpreters again
 - Planned to be discussed at the next CDM

-- 
Mike Perez
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