Am 06.12.19 um 23:13 schrieb Sage Weil: > On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, Brad Hubbard wrote: >> Tentacle? > > I rather like Tentacle, actually. > > One of the other things that has bugged me about this whole project is the > ssh orchestrator name, and the combination of the two (ceph-dadmon + > mgr/ssh? ssh-orch?). In reality, the two go together. Although in > theory you could use most of ceph-daemon with a different orchestrator > framework, in practice the bootstrap configures the ssh orch for you, and > most of the rest of ceph-daemon is just an extension of mgr/ssh to run > remotely. > > Renaming both mgr/ssh -> mgr/tentacle and /usr/bin/ceph-daemon -> > /usr/bin/tentacle would solidify the idea that it's one thing, comparable > to it's counterpart Rook in the kubernetes space. It would also get the > 'ssh' out of the name, which is a bit misleading (and doesn't really sell > its value). We use ssh to run ceph-daemon on remote nodes, but this could > be swapped out for something else if the need arose. +1 for renaming mgr/ssh to something different as well. For performance reasons, we might indeed need to move to a different remote-execution mechanism away from ssh. Keeping ssh in the module's name would make this awkward. > > Or perhaps, in the spirit of tendrl, we should do tentacl? :) > > Otherwise, ceph-adm is currently in the lead. > > sage > > >> >> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:25 AM Matthew Oliver <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> I like ceph-manage or something like that, however that's probably too close to ceph-mgr which could get very confusing. >>> >>> Looking at thesaurus.com for manage, there are some other words that could be interesting (there is a bunch so I'll only name a few): >>> >>> - administer (so adm is a good candidate, which I know is already on the list) >>> - conduct >>> - govern >>> - handle >>> - maintain >>> - operate >>> - oversee >>> - run >>> - supervise >>> - command >>> - designate >>> - execute >>> - instruct >>> - steer >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:32 AM Sage Weil <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> During CDM on Wednesday I suggested that ceph-daemon should probably be >>>> renamed before octopus (and before the name sticks). In speech "ceph >>>> daemon" is confusing, and the name doesn't really reflect what it >>>> is: >>>> >>>> a user-facing tool >>>> - to bootstrap a new cluster, >>>> - launch a (containerized) shell, >>>> - enter an existing daemon container, >>>> - tail a daemon's log, or >>>> - adopt a daemon deployed with a legacy tool (ceph-deploy, ceph-ansible, >>>> etc) into a ceph-daemon style container >>>> - remove all trace of a cluster from the localhost, >>>> >>>> and an internal tool used by ssh-orch to >>>> - deploy or remove a container running a ceph daemon >>>> - start, stop, or update an existing container >>>> - run ceph-volume (to gather device inventory, create osds, zap, etc.) >>>> - gather a host inventory of services (containers) >>>> >>>> The original tool was more like "ceph daemon tool" but it was shortened to >>>> ceph-daemon at the start. >>>> >>>> We voted on some alternatives here: >>>> >>>> https://pad.ceph.com/p/ceph-daemon-tool >>>> >>>> but the winner is currently 'cephctl' with is IMO a non-starteer. >>>> Usually 'ctl' utilities are for interacting with running systems/daemons >>>> via some runtime API--that's basically what the 'ceph' CLI utility is. >>>> ceph-daemon is more akin to kubeadm or ceph-deploy or something like >>>> that. >>>> >>>> So... I shortened/pruned the list again. Please weigh in. And if you >>>> have a bright idea for a better name, feel free to add it. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> sage >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Dev mailing list -- dev@xxxxxxx >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to dev-leave@xxxxxxx >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dev mailing list -- dev@xxxxxxx >>> To unsubscribe send an email to dev-leave@xxxxxxx >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Brad >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list -- dev@xxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to dev-leave@xxxxxxx > -- SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg). Geschäftsführer: Felix Imendörffer
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