tentacle is pretty awesome!
But just to play devil's advocate, we opensource devs do have a nack for picking cool names, but make it hard for other users to understand what the tool does. Conceptually, I can see it from what Lenz says. But would it make sense to a normal sysadmin?
Don't get me wrong, I like it and think it's fun, just want to make sure it's thought about now and not after we do a rename and release.
Matt
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 12:33 PM Brad Hubbard <bhubbard@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Tentacle?
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:25 AM Matthew Oliver <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I like ceph-manage or something like that, however that's probably too close to ceph-mgr which could get very confusing.
>
> Looking at thesaurus.com for manage, there are some other words that could be interesting (there is a bunch so I'll only name a few):
>
> - administer (so adm is a good candidate, which I know is already on the list)
> - conduct
> - govern
> - handle
> - maintain
> - operate
> - oversee
> - run
> - supervise
> - command
> - designate
> - execute
> - instruct
> - steer
>
> Matt
>
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:32 AM Sage Weil <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> During CDM on Wednesday I suggested that ceph-daemon should probably be
>> renamed before octopus (and before the name sticks). In speech "ceph
>> daemon" is confusing, and the name doesn't really reflect what it
>> is:
>>
>> a user-facing tool
>> - to bootstrap a new cluster,
>> - launch a (containerized) shell,
>> - enter an existing daemon container,
>> - tail a daemon's log, or
>> - adopt a daemon deployed with a legacy tool (ceph-deploy, ceph-ansible,
>> etc) into a ceph-daemon style container
>> - remove all trace of a cluster from the localhost,
>>
>> and an internal tool used by ssh-orch to
>> - deploy or remove a container running a ceph daemon
>> - start, stop, or update an existing container
>> - run ceph-volume (to gather device inventory, create osds, zap, etc.)
>> - gather a host inventory of services (containers)
>>
>> The original tool was more like "ceph daemon tool" but it was shortened to
>> ceph-daemon at the start.
>>
>> We voted on some alternatives here:
>>
>> https://pad.ceph.com/p/ceph-daemon-tool
>>
>> but the winner is currently 'cephctl' with is IMO a non-starteer.
>> Usually 'ctl' utilities are for interacting with running systems/daemons
>> via some runtime API--that's basically what the 'ceph' CLI utility is.
>> ceph-daemon is more akin to kubeadm or ceph-deploy or something like
>> that.
>>
>> So... I shortened/pruned the list again. Please weigh in. And if you
>> have a bright idea for a better name, feel free to add it.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> sage
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