On 12/6/19 4:17 PM, Brad Hubbard wrote:
On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 8:13 AM Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, Brad Hubbard wrote:
Tentacle?
I rather like Tentacle, actually.
One of the other things that has bugged me about this whole project is the
ssh orchestrator name, and the combination of the two (ceph-dadmon +
mgr/ssh? ssh-orch?). In reality, the two go together. Although in
theory you could use most of ceph-daemon with a different orchestrator
framework, in practice the bootstrap configures the ssh orch for you, and
most of the rest of ceph-daemon is just an extension of mgr/ssh to run
remotely.
Renaming both mgr/ssh -> mgr/tentacle and /usr/bin/ceph-daemon ->
/usr/bin/tentacle would solidify the idea that it's one thing, comparable
to it's counterpart Rook in the kubernetes space. It would also get the
'ssh' out of the name, which is a bit misleading (and doesn't really sell
its value). We use ssh to run ceph-daemon on remote nodes, but this could
be swapped out for something else if the need arose.
Or perhaps, in the spirit of tendrl, we should do tentacl? :)
Added this to the list because I don't mind it and it has the benefit
of being easier to search for.
That's true, tentacl will be far easier to google for. :)
Having said that, ceph-daemon is pretty clear cut. The first thing I
think of when I hear tentacl is:
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/49352057/day-of-the-tentacle-remastered-screenshot-01_1920.0.0.jpg
Mark
Otherwise, ceph-adm is currently in the lead.
sage
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:25 AM Matthew Oliver <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I like ceph-manage or something like that, however that's probably too close to ceph-mgr which could get very confusing.
Looking at thesaurus.com for manage, there are some other words that could be interesting (there is a bunch so I'll only name a few):
- administer (so adm is a good candidate, which I know is already on the list)
- conduct
- govern
- handle
- maintain
- operate
- oversee
- run
- supervise
- command
- designate
- execute
- instruct
- steer
Matt
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:32 AM Sage Weil <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
During CDM on Wednesday I suggested that ceph-daemon should probably be
renamed before octopus (and before the name sticks). In speech "ceph
daemon" is confusing, and the name doesn't really reflect what it
is:
a user-facing tool
- to bootstrap a new cluster,
- launch a (containerized) shell,
- enter an existing daemon container,
- tail a daemon's log, or
- adopt a daemon deployed with a legacy tool (ceph-deploy, ceph-ansible,
etc) into a ceph-daemon style container
- remove all trace of a cluster from the localhost,
and an internal tool used by ssh-orch to
- deploy or remove a container running a ceph daemon
- start, stop, or update an existing container
- run ceph-volume (to gather device inventory, create osds, zap, etc.)
- gather a host inventory of services (containers)
The original tool was more like "ceph daemon tool" but it was shortened to
ceph-daemon at the start.
We voted on some alternatives here:
https://pad.ceph.com/p/ceph-daemon-tool
but the winner is currently 'cephctl' with is IMO a non-starteer.
Usually 'ctl' utilities are for interacting with running systems/daemons
via some runtime API--that's basically what the 'ceph' CLI utility is.
ceph-daemon is more akin to kubeadm or ceph-deploy or something like
that.
So... I shortened/pruned the list again. Please weigh in. And if you
have a bright idea for a better name, feel free to add it.
Thanks!
sage
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