On 11/27/06, Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Therefore, let me put it very clearly: I am against implementing anything which is not stated in > RFCs 3448, RFC 4340, RFC 4341, and RFC 4342. About the rest we might talk when the Linux implementation > matches these RFCs, but before we have accomplished that: please stop sending feature requests or > annotations which are not part of the publicly and IETF-approved RFCs. For these purposes, please > use dccp@ietf instead. I will throw in my opinion here. Linux is about experimenting with ideas in many cases - that is the joy of it. People can and should contribute whatever they want. They shouldn't be constrained by anything.
Agreed, and we've worked really hard in the last years for Linux to be a testbed for new ideas, look no further than the pluggable TCP congestion control and the DCCP CCID pluggable infrastructures, that we dream of unifying one day (look at http://darkircop.org/dccp/tcp/ to see Andrea's experimentation making DCCP use all the TCP congestion control algorithms).
Eddie can suggest whatever he likes and I welcome it. That doesn't mean it will get included though as it depends on coders. You don't like his approach which is fine - it means that you won't code it. I like the sounds of it but very time constrained so probably won't unless it helps me solve a problem in my PhD. But someone else who is motivated might go and do it.
And as I said, go for it! If it needs changes on how the core interacts with CCIDs, I'd love to hear, I just understand Gerrit's worries as we all need a standards compliant DCCP implementation as a much longed for milestone.
Linux isn't always RFC compliant either - ask Sally for example about TCP.... (Although Linux is probably better than any other OS in RFC compliance).
Its just great that the RFC authors are taking part on the discussion, that way things like this are noticed and provide clues for further work on erratums and updates to the RFCs, we just don't want to trow all the effort they have put in writing the RFCs by not following it 8-)
> I am sure we can work out a constructive way of dealing with your interests as well, but it is certainly > not via the avenue of implementing feature requests which you state without contributing in work or in > funding. > I agree that the main focus of Linux is "show me the code" and for this to go in someone has to code. I also value Eddie making comments and hope it continues.
Heck, I was commenting with David Miller, Linux has come a long way, now the RFC authors are reviewing Linux kernel code, that is absolutely awesome and I sincerely _beg_ for this to continue :-) - Arnaldo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe dccp" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
