Re: [v2 PATCH] options: Always reset OPTIND in getoptsreset

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On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 10:21:42PM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Always reset OPTIND if it is modified by the user, regardless of
> its value.
I disagree in principle, but I think this is basically fine actually;
strictly, we are allowed to do this
  98842  If the application sets OPTIND to the value 1, a new set of parameters can be used: either the
  98843  current positional parameters or new arg values. Any other attempt to invoke getopts multiple
  98844  times in a single shell execution environment with parameters (positional parameters or arg
  98845  operands) that are not the same in all invocations, or with an OPTIND value modified to be a
  98846  value other than 1, produces unspecified results.
but I cannot prove this breaks existing code in the wild.

I mean such code most likely definitely exists,
but I cannot prove this; but even if it does,
it relies on "unspecified" behaviour, which means it
"cannot be assured to be portable across conforming implementations"
such as dash 1 and dash 2.
I still think it should keep working, since it had worked.

While I found at least one changelog entry in DCS saying
"remove unset OPTIND to work around broken dash shell"
by searching for "unset.*OPTIND\b",
searching "OPTIND=[^01]" gives me heaps of OPTIND=digit
and OPTIND=expression users, but most of them are explicit bash users;
the first one with /bin/sh is
	https://sources.debian.org/src/sptk/3.9-3/debian/scripts/raw2wav/?hl=74#L74
reading
	OPTIND=0
	OPT=""
	for i in "$@"
	do
	    OPTIND=`expr $OPTIND + 1`
	    if [ "$OPT" = "" ]
	    then
		OPTARG=""
but this program doesn't use getopts.

This turns "unset OPTIND must work but doesn't"
         + "OPTIND=asd is invalid but probably shouldn't be"
         + "OPTIND=3 makes getopts parse the third argument (as a happy accident)"
into "unset OPTIND works"
   + "OPTIND=asd works (and restarts getopts as a happy accident)"
   + "OPTIND=3 restarts getopts (as a happy accident)".

So, overall, reasonable, if a tad solomonic.

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