Re: Dashhh

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Am 17.11.11 18:56, schrieb Eric Blake:
On 11/17/2011 09:17 AM, Heiko Gerstung wrote:
What this tiny patch does:
- shift does not return a critical error when no arguments are left, it simply does nothing
This came up in the Austin Group (the folks in charge of POSIX), and the
consensus there was that dash is compliant (POSIX says that the problem
is with the script, not the shell, if you call shift with too few
positional parameters set; and that you should rewrite your script to
avoid tickling unspecified behavior).

http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=459
Thanks for providing the link. I disagree with POSIX ;-) in this respect. Since shift often deals with user input (parameters provided when invoking a script) it is not really foreseeable if a certain number of parameters exists when shift comes to the party. I will try to rewrite my scripts, but it is a PITA to do so (as all of us most probably know) and if it is not really a POSIX violation to allow it, I see no benefit from not allowing it. But hey, that's just me.


- "[[" works exactly as "["
Wrong.  [[ is NOT exactly like [.  And the Austin Group is currently
considering a proposal to add [[ to the shell (if that is done, then
dash will HAVE to implement it as specified by POSIX; but the jury's
still out on whether the proposal will be accepted):

http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=375
Yep, Stefano already pointed that out. My mistake!

- "==" works like "="
That same Austin Group proposal is also talking about adding [ a == b ];
this particular addition is much less controversial than the [[
addition, so it is likely that the proposal will be split and each
separate addition individually balloted for inclusion.
I hope they accept it. Really a no-ressource-consuming, no existing script breaking thing and therefore a worthwhile addition IMHO.
- the variable FUNCNAME contains the name of the currently running shell function or nothing (when not inside a function)
That's fluff - POSIX doesn't speak either way, and dash prefers to be as
light as possible when POSIX doesn't require it, so I'm not sure if
you'll get any enthusiastic response on this front.
I do not expect any enthusiastic responses, but I consider this a valuable addition for debugging large scripts with lots of functions usage. I have no problem if you think it's fluff, nobody is forced to use something she/he doesn't like.

One more thing I'd like to add is something like $SECONDS, but maybe with a little bit more resolution (maybe $RUNTIME representing the amount of milliseconds since script invocation). Fluff as you probably would say ;-), but it would give me a good idea where in my (larger) scripts I am doing something that costs a lot of time.

Thank you for your interesting comments, that was exactly what I was hoping for! Got me thinking and I already have a few nice ideas how to rewrite parts of my scripts.

Regards,
  Heiko
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