Thanks. Well, I am currently using PIDs, $!, kill $pid and kill -- -$pgrp. However, I noticed that **even if I don't wait** for a background job, the shell somehow auto-reaps dead children: $ dash -c 'sleep 1 & echo "PID $!"; sleep 1000' & [1] 7840 PID 7841 $ ps ax | grep [7]841 $ So, since dead children get reaped (instead of becoming zombies for a while), their PIDs are not "reserved". After a PID wrap-around at 32767, a different process could get the same PID. That makes PIDs unreliable. I could end up killing a completely unrelated process, instead of a (possibly zombified) child. That's why I thought I'd try to see if "jobs" could work more reliably. > That much is clear. However, "kill" and "jobs -p" are less clear. Their I only need plain "jobs"... I used "jobs -l" as a convenience in the example I gave, but plain "jobs" would be enough. Unfortunately, it seems the "kill %n" does indeed refer to process groups. I didn't realize this means the shell is not guaranteed to support "kill %n" unless "set -m" is in effect (and, again, there are problems with set -m in dash). -- Dan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe dash" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html