> The hard work of many Debian maintainers fixing broken shell > scripts and pushing these changes upstream is certainly not The hardest (and entirely avoidable) work fell on the shoulders of the "community" who had scripts break mysteriously without so much as a warning from Debian/Ubuntu. People would all of a sudden receive errors from well established packages (such as vmware) with absolutely no clue as to what was wrong. > wasted time but a great service to other platforms as well by Wherever Linux goes, bash goes too... except for embedded busyboxy systems, where everything is customized by hand anyway. > improving portability. If you want bash or ksh scripts to work > why do you use dash? No sane user cares about bash / ksh / *sh in *scripts* -- but once sh=bash became a de-facto standard, making a change swiftly and "under the radar" was irresponsible. We are not living in an ideal world, and I do not wish to debate worthy causes for that inexistent ideal world. > That is a very weak argument as it applies to many such features, > the question is whether to create precendent here and where that'll I actually tend to agree with this (though I still think it's a bikeshed issue). Now that we've paid the price to port scripts to dash, why lose the one benefit we ever had? Still, I wish dash would spend more effort making sure that everything in SUSv3 works *at least as well* as it does in Bash, and less effort in debating == vs =. I have had to abandon certain POSIX idioms that work well in Bash because dash does not (or did not) support them. Note that even when an upgraded dash fixes a bug, the impact on distributions lingers on for years: it takes a while for new distros to incorporate the new dash, and scripts can't know if they are running on "new" or "old" distros. So dash, the now-default /bin/sh, should be even more proactive about bugs than a normal package. -- Dan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe dash" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html