Peter: It is not random, because, people cannot have random thoughts. The Zohar (the text on Jewish mysticism) says we receive only thoughts, which will help us correct ourselves into better people, or do a job to help others around us correct themselves. Thus, nothing we think or do is random, but is programmed for our own correction we must work to achieve in each lifetime as inscribed by G-D. However, events (not thoughts) have much more random nature to them. While even events (from G-Ds view) are not random, to use their sequence and placement seems so, providing a level of randomness sufficient for the purposes at hand. However, according to Kabbalah (Jewish Mysticism, and the "new" physics), there is no randomness in the world at all. The new physics says that it was a random strike of lightening which first created life, but, how can we say life's creation (a monumentus occasion in world history) could have been random if we believe in g-d? Therefore, it is the appearance of randomness we are looking for, and such appearance needs to come from events so unrelated that we cannot access the attributes to "de randomize" their reconnection. Thus if you pick the 3rd verb printed in the front page of the wall street journal every day, the 9th adjective, and the 20th preposition, they are so unrelated that we presume them random. Yet in fact, those words are not random, they are part of an order (the article we are reading) which is unrelated to the more grand random nature we see in picking those words. So to are our thoughts, when you think our thoughts are random, your are not viewing them from G-Ds view. Since G-Ds work is far less random than the words appearing in the Wall Street Journal, do you think it safe to use human thought to protect your data? Remember, we have power and ability beyond even our own comprehension. So, if you randomly picked 5 numbers every day, after a year, you would see a pattern. One which you didn't even realize, but was always there. Our brains can do things we don't realize, and that is at the influence of G-D. We are not good randomization engines. Very Respectfully, Stuart Blake Tener, IT3, USNR-R, N3GWG VTU 1904G (Volunteer Training Unit) stuart@xxxxxxxxxxx west coast: (310)-358-0202 P.O. Box 16043, Beverly Hills, CA 90209-2043 east coast: (215)-338-6005 P.O. Box 45859, Philadelphia, PA 19149-5859 Telecopier: (419)-715-6073 fax to email gateway via www.efax.com (it's free!) JOIN THE US NAVY RESERVE, SERVE YOUR COUNTRY, AND BENEFIT FROM IT ALL. Sunday, July 08, 2001 5:36 AM -----Original Message----- From: owner-linux-crypto@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-linux-crypto@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of peter k. Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 5:33 AM To: srn@xxxxxxxxx Cc: linux-crypto@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Announce loop-AES-v1.3b file crypto package >> what!!? well, this could be true but then it only applies to people with low >> intelligence! >> i bet both of us can write down 30 random characters without any relation >> between them so whats the problem about that??!! > >I can't tell whether this is meant to be a joke or not! > >I hope it is. People are _really_ bad at picking random things - try >an experiment - ask a group of people to pick a random number. You'll be >surprised... it is not, for example, i just generated that *using my brain*: "s4k1f62rni7q" tell me why it isnt random!!! Linux-crypto: cryptography in and on the Linux system Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-crypto/ Linux-crypto: cryptography in and on the Linux system Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-crypto/
