hi simon- I installed gnucobol okay. thank you. I got re routed in the forum to the mailing list because there is no button to post in the forum that is visible under help discussions at gnucobol forums for help discussion. Therefore by getting routed around, you missed my conversation with Jeff and Robert Heller, and I missed that you were working on this because I couldn't apply directly to the forum. There use to be a simple button that said new post that you click on and then you communicate.