Re: Cron Jobs

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Hi,

1.
>>>yeah, my first inkling was to symlink /etc/cron.daily but that breaks so much existing functionality.

I was actually thinking about /var/spool/cron/crontabs directory.  You can put your cron definitions there in the old UNIX style. It works perfectly well and is more general and flexible then the /etc/cron.* files, I believe.

2.
>>>I followed you until you spoke of remote nodes? What exactly do you have in mind?

I implemented that approach in my old failover scripts for Digital/Compaq/HP TruCluster. Attached is a README file for this functionality. This will give you the concepts, although there are bits there that are TruCluster specific like CDSLs. If you are interested I am happy to share the scripts from which you can extract the relevant code and modify it for your needs.

Regards,

Chris

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#
#
#	Crontab file management.
#	------------------------
#
#	There is a need for having a schedule of commands for cron
#	that is active on a node only when the service is running
#	on this node.
#	In other words, certain commands must be scheduled only
#	when the service is running and only on the node on which
#	the service is running.
#
#	One way to implement it would be to modify every such command
#	to check for the presence of the service on the node on which
#	the command is run. This will be quite cumbersome if there
#	is large number of such commands.
#
#	Another way to achieve execution of commands dependent
#	on presence of a service would be by writing a jacket script
#	taking as arguments the name of service in question and the
#	pathname of the script to be executed and its arguments.
#
#	The implementation here takes advantage of the fact that service
#	specific cron processing is commonly done by a certain user or users
#	and that crontab(1) maintains a separate configuration file for each
#	user. Thus, it is relatively easy to manipulate the crontab file 
#	of such a user.
#
#	A directory is chosen eg. /usr/local/crontabs.
#
#	This directory contains templates of crontab files for users that
#	are associated with certain services in a sense that the cron jobs
#	for such a user are to be run only on the node on which this service
#	is running.
#
#	The script starting the service will install the template as the
#	crontab file for such a user on startup of the service.
#
#	The template of the crontab file should be named by the username
#	with the extension service_on.
#
#	Eg. for a user "fred" and chosen extension ".service_on" the template
#	should be named:
#
#	fred.service_on
#
#	Typically, by convention, the name of the CAA application resource
#	will be used as the "service" string in the extension.
#
#	The contents of the template will be active on the member running
#	the service for the lifetime of the service.
#
#	On a graceful shutdown of the service the script will install
#	another template of the crontab file for the user.
#
#	This template of the crontab file should be named by the username
#	with a predefined extension.
#
#	Eg. for a user "fred" and chosen extension ".service_off" the template
#	should be named:
#
#	fred.service_off
#
#	Typically, by convention, the name of the CAA application resource
#	will be used as the "service" string in the extension.
#
#	The contents of the template will be active on every member not running
#	the service at the time. 
#
#	This template specifies	periodically scheduled processing for a user
#	on members that do not run the service at the time. 
#	The file may of course contain no commands, but it should exist.
#
#	Of course both of those templates should be in the standard crontab(1)
#	format.
#
#	Notes and assumptions:
#
#	1.
#	Please note that the above mechanism of crontab file management 
#	assumes that a user is associated with only one service.
#	More state would need to be kept if a user would need different
#	processing depending on whether 0, 1, 2 or more services were 
#	running on a node.
#
#	2.
#	Please note that /var/spool/cron is a CDSL in the TCS cluster and thus
#	all crontab files in /var/spool/cron/crontabs are node specific.
#
#	3.
#	If a node dies suddenly and then reboots, then it will reboot
#	with a set of crontabs that may not reflect the current state
#	of services on the node after reboot.
#	In fact the node will have all the crontabs from the moment it
#	crashed augmented by changes caused by any sevices restarted
#	on it after its reboot.
#
#	What is really needed is another script - run on boot from
#	/sbin/rc2.d directory that will install correct initial, inactive
#	(*.service_off) versions of the crontabs on boot.
#
#	4. 
#	The crontab templates must be readable by the user for whom
#	they are to be installed.



-----Original Message-----
From: linux-cluster-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:linux-cluster-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2010 09:42
To: 'linux clustering'
Subject: Re:  Cron Jobs

>1.
>What about replacing the directory containing the cron job descriptions in /var with a symbolic link to a directory on the sahred filesystem.

yeah, my first inkling was to symlink /etc/cron.daily but that breaks so much existing functionality.

>2.
>You application service start/stop script may modify the cron job description files.  This is more complex, as it has to deal with remote nodes that may be >down.

I followed you until you spoke of remote nodes? What exactly do you have in mind?
Thanks!
jlc

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