On 25/01/10 13:28, Evan Broder wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Evan Broder<broder@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Christine Caulfield
<ccaulfie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 23/01/10 17:35, Evan Broder wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Christine Caulfield
<ccaulfie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 21/01/10 15:17, Evan Broder wrote:
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Christine Caulfield
<ccaulfie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 12/01/10 16:21, Evan Broder wrote:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Christine Caulfield
<ccaulfie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 11/01/10 09:38, Christine Caulfield wrote:
On 11/01/10 09:32, Evan Broder wrote:
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Christine Caulfield
<ccaulfie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 08/01/10 22:58, Evan Broder wrote:
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Hi -
We're attempting to setup a clvm (2.02.56) cluster using OpenAIS
(1.1.1) and Corosync (1.1.2). We've gotten bitten hard in the
past
by
crashes leaving DLM state around and forcing us to reboot our
nodes,
so we're specifically looking for a solution that doesn't involve
in-kernel locking.
We're also running the Pacemaker OpenAIS service, as we're hoping
to
use it for management of some other resources going forward.
We've managed to form the OpenAIS cluster, and get clvmd running
on
both of our nodes. Operations using LVM succeed, so long as only
one
operation runs at a time. However, if we attempt to run two
operations
(say, one lvcreate on each host) at a time, they both hang, and
both
clvmd processes appear to deadlock.
When they deadlock, it doesn't appear to affect the other
clustering
processes - both corosync and pacemaker still report a fully
formed
cluster, so it seems the issue is localized to clvmd.
I've looked at logs from corosync and pacemaker, and I've straced
various processes, but I don't want to blast a bunch of useless
information at the list. What information can I provide to make
it
easier to debug and fix this deadlock?
To start with, the best logging to produce is the clvmd logs which
can be
got with clvmd -d (see the man page for details). Ideally these
should be
from all nodes in the cluster so they can be correlated. If you're
still
using DLM then a dlm lock dump from all nodes is often helpful in
conjunction with the clvmd logs.
Sure, no problem. I've posted the logs from clvmd on both processes
in
<http://web.mit.edu/broder/Public/clvmd/>. I've annotated them at a
few points with what I was doing - the annotations all start with "
", so they should be easy to spot.
Ironically it looks like a bug in the clvmd-openais code. I can
reproduce
it
on my systems here. I don't see the problem when using the dlm!
Can you try -Icorosync and see if that helps? In the meantime I'll
have
a
look at the openais bits to try and find out what is wrong.
Chrissie
I'll see what we can pull together, but the nodes running the clvm
cluster are also Xen dom0's. They're currently running on (Ubuntu
Hardy's) 2.6.24, so upgrading them to something new enough to support
DLM 3 would be...challenging.
It would be much, much better for us if we could get clvmd-openais
working.
Is there any chance this would work better if we dropped back to
openais whitetank instead of corosync + openais wilson?
OK, I've found the bug and it IS in openais. The attached patch will
fix
it.
Chrissie
Awesome. That patch fixed our problem.
We are running into one other problem - performing LVM operations on
one node is substantially slower than performing them on the other
node:
root@black-mesa:~# time lvcreate -n test -L 1G xenvg
Logical volume "test" created
real 0m0.309s
user 0m0.000s
sys 0m0.008s
root@black-mesa:~# time lvremove -f /dev/xenvg/test
Logical volume "test" successfully removed
real 0m0.254s
user 0m0.004s
sys 0m0.008s
root@torchwood-institute:~# time lvcreate -n test -L 1G xenvg
Logical volume "test" created
real 0m7.282s
user 0m6.396s
sys 0m0.312s
root@torchwood-institute:~# time lvremove -f /dev/xenvg/test
Logical volume "test" successfully removed
real 0m7.277s
user 0m6.420s
sys 0m0.292s
Any idea why this is happening and if there's anything we can do about
it?
I'm not at all sure why that should be happening. I suppose the best
thing
to do would be to enable clvmd logging (clvmd -d) and see what is taking
the
time.
Chrissie
No problem. I've collected another set of logs - they're in
<http://web.mit.edu/broder/Public/clvmd-slow/>.
After spinning up corosync and clvmd, the commands I ran were, in order:
root@black-mesa:~# vgchange -a y xenvg
0 logical volume(s) in volume group "xenvg" now active
root@black-mesa:~# time lvcreate -n test1 -L 1G xenvg
Logical volume "test1" created
real 0m0.685s
user 0m0.004s
sys 0m0.000s
root@black-mesa:~# time lvremove -f /dev/xenvg/test1
Logical volume "test1" successfully removed
real 0m0.235s
user 0m0.004s
sys 0m0.004s
root@torchwood-institute:~# time lvcreate -n test2 -L 1G xenvg
Logical volume "test2" created
real 0m8.007s
user 0m6.396s
sys 0m0.312s
root@torchwood-institute:~# time lvremove -f /dev/xenvg/test2
Logical volume "test2" successfully removed
real 0m7.364s
user 0m6.436s
sys 0m0.300s
root@black-mesa:~# vgchange -a n xenvg
0 logical volume(s) in volume group "xenvg" now active
(black-mesa is node 1, and torchwood-institute is node 2)
Thanks again for your help,
Hiya,
Oddly I can't find any delays in the clvmd logs at all. There are some
7-second gaps in the log files but those are between commands coming from
the lvm command-line and not internal to clvmd itself.
What sort of storage are you using for these LVs? The only thing I can think
of now is that there is some sort of delay in lvm opening the device for
writing as it updates the metadata. An LVM debug log might be helpful here,
though I'm not sure, off-hand, how to put time-stamps on that - I'm not
really an LVM developer any more.
Chrissie
Well, uh, you see...at the moment I'm using a VM on a personal server
running iscsitarget from the other side of MIT's campus :)
But that's only because our normal RAID is in the process of being
RMA'd. Normally it's a Fibre channel RAID sitting right next to the
two servers, and we still had the same timing problems (with the same
server being slower) then. The two servers are identical hardware and
sitting right next to each other.
In any case, thanks for the suggestion to look at LVM itself instead
of clvmd - I sort of forgot my basic debugging techniques before
asking for help on this one. LVM logs to syslog, and its logging mode
includes timestamps.
When I cranked up the debug level, I noticed that the lvcreates and
lvremoves were hanging on "Archiving volume group "xenvg" metadata
(seqno 48).". If I turn off the metadata archives in lvm.conf on
torchwood-institute, its performance goes back to what I'd expect, so
I guess it's having some sort of disk problems.
Thanks again for all of our help,
- Evan
Actually, the real problem turned out to be much more straightforward:
root@torchwood-institute:~# ls -a /etc/lvm/archive | wc -l
301369
For some reason, torchwood-institute had built up a massive archive of
files named like
/etc/lvm/archive/.lvm_torchwood-institute.mit.edu_17470_993238909.
Listing them all took...about 7 seconds.
Deleting them all put performance back where it should be.
:-)
Sometimes the simpler thing actually is the problem!
clvmd is usually the first place I do look for a slowdown as it's
complicated and does a lot of locking. It's good that you found the
problem elsewhere.
Thanks for letting me know.
Chrissie
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