When you say, need to join with the services running. What services do I need to start in order to do this manual join? Just cman? If a node crashes and cant rejoin. I have to hurry up (before its fenced again) and disable the auto start (chkconfig) of the following services: rgmanager, gfs, clvmd, and cman. Then reboot that node again? Then start cman and try to rejoin with just the cman_tool? The question is, if a server isn't part of a cluster anymore (aka, it was rebooted), the cluster obviously recognizes that disconnect and since the node was rebooted, it shouldn't even think its part of a cluster. So why in the world does anything think it is? All these manually changes after a simple node reboot or fencing just doesn't seem like a good design plan. I don't consider myself even moderately knowledgeable in this arena, I am just looking at this from a design perspective. -----Original Message----- From: linux-cluster-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:linux-cluster-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christine Caulfield Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:39 AM To: linux clustering Subject: Re: error messages explained Mark Chaney wrote: > Cam someone explain to me these errors and tell me how I should attempt to > resolve them? They both aren't happening at the same time exactly, its just > to errors that I don't truly understand. > > #################### > > ccsd[3192]: Attempt to close an unopened CCS descriptor (13590). > ccsd[3192]: Error while processing disconnect: > Invalid request descriptor > > ################## > > openais[5453]: [MAIN ] Killing node ratchet.local because it has rejoined > the cluster with existing state > I need to add this to the FAQ! What this message means is that a node was a valid member of the cluster once; it then left the cluster (without being fenced) and rejoined automatically. This can sometimes happen if the ethernet is disconnected for a time, usually a few seconds. If a node leave the cluster, it MUST rejoin using the cman_tool join command with no services running. The usual way to make this happen is to reboot the node, and if fencing is configured correctly that is what normally happens. It could be that fencing is too slow to manage this or that the cluster is made up of two nodes without a quorum disk so that the 'other' node doesn't have quorum and cannot initiate fencing. Another (more common) cause of this, is slow responding of some Cisco switches as documented here: http://www.openais.org/doku.php?id=faq:cisco_switches -- Chrissie -- Linux-cluster mailing list Linux-cluster@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-cluster -- Linux-cluster mailing list Linux-cluster@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-cluster