Hi, After upgrading the RPM's on Centos5, i get Flags: Dirty on cman_tool status. Found a post on this list from May just before I joined. A follow up to this topic. Chrissie: It's a perfectly normal state. in fact it's expected if you are running services. It simply means that the cluster has some services running that have state of their own that cannot be recovered without a full restart. I would be more worried if you did NOT see this in cman_tool status. It's NOT a warning. don't worry about it :) Prior to upgrading my cman and gfs-utils, I was getting "flags: ". The cluster is not running any services other than the internal fence and dlm ones (cman_tool services shows fence only). There was an update to cvs last year September where the flag was added, so I'm guessing that this might resolve the issue. (Think by Chrissie again). Don't quite understand "This node has internal state and must not join a cluster that also has state" description of dirty flag though, does this mean that because the node is part of a cluster it has state? And that only a stateless node can join a cluster with state? (or if the cluster doesn't have state, then the node will be the first one in the cluster to start up...). -- Linux-cluster mailing list Linux-cluster@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-cluster