Bob, Thank you for replying; I should have included more information. I was going by the bases people assumed a valid cluster was running (but we should never assume that right? :) ). After your email I ran a few status tools to report more information in hopes may have helped guide anyone to an answer. Had you not sent your email, I wouldn't have uncovered the very odd one at the bottom of this email. [root@node01 ~]# service cman status cman is running. [root@node01 ~]# clustat Cluster Status for rhc1 @ Thu Jul 31 13:21:35 2008 Member Status: Quorate Member Name ID Status ------ ---- ---- ------ node01.rhc1 1 Online, Local node02.rhc1 2 Online node03.rhc1 3 Online node04.rhc1 4 Online node05.rhc1 5 Offline (Note: I tailored the above output so it wouldn't wrap) [root@node01 ~]# service rgmanager status clurgmgrd (pid 13235) is running... [root@node01 ~]# cman_tool status Version: 6.1.0 Config Version: 8 Cluster Name: rhc1 Cluster Id: 1575 Cluster Member: Yes Cluster Generation: 36 Membership state: Cluster-Member Nodes: 4 Expected votes: 5 Total votes: 4 Quorum: 3 Active subsystems: 8 Flags: Dirty Ports Bound: 0 177 Node name: node01.rhc1 Node ID: 1 Multicast addresses: <not important> Node addresses: <not important> This one concerns me : [root@node01 ~]# cman_tool services type level name id state dlm 1 rgmanager 00010002 FAIL_ALL_STOPPED [1 2 3] Chris Caron -- Linux-cluster mailing list Linux-cluster@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-cluster