Hi I am running RHEL4 with csgfs from centos, all packages updates in both sets (RHEL and CS-GFS) but since the last updates my cluster become more unstable, sometimes after a failed shutdown of a service (it failed because was unable to umount the GFS) and the other two times just dont know exactly why (I wasn't ther when it happen, just went to fixed). all of this in lest than two weeks and every time, the cman infrastructure just hand or collapse. the first to times, I realice that one of the nodes (and just one) was hanging the cman so the entire cluster where in stand-by, until I fence (reboot) the node. from cman_tool services in that node, I guess clvm was the guilty just because it were running (run state):-) it shouldn't be in that state ;-) . it is just a guess, ok? I am not an expert in CS. also, a lot, and I mean a lot, of time my services can't start is because the clustered LV are not Activated even when clvm is running and cman_tool services say it is running. just a clvmd restar fix that. so, my question is, can I run the cluster with GFS without clvmd working? I don't have plans to work with lvm (extending for example) the sistem is working and should be in the same state (from the filesystem point of view) for a long time. so, can I "declusterice" the LV where GFS live? and if I can, what are the steps to do it? 1- vgchange -cn "VG Name" 2- cmand stop 3- lvmconf --disable-cluster I guess I don't need to unmount the LV to do that, do I? nore the data in those FS should be lost because of that operation (tha change), right? thanks in advance for the help cu roger __________________________________________ RedHat Certified ( RHCE ) Cisco Certified ( CCNA & CCDA ) Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca -- Linux-cluster mailing list Linux-cluster@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-cluster