Ok, I've been trying it the way you've suggested. I auto start the services on the node, then run a script to join the node and start a service in this case; cman_tool -t 120 join -w fence_tool -t 120 join -w vgchange -aly mount -t gfs /dev/VolGroup04/web /var/www/ cp -f /var/www/system/httpd.conf /etc/httpd/conf/. cp -f /var/www/system/php.ini /etc/. /etc/init.d/httpd start This works just fine. Now, when I try to remove the node from the cluster, I still get; cman_tool: Can't leave cluster while there are 3 active subsystems cman_tool services shows that rgmanager is still running. I stop that, same problem, node is still in the cluster. What next? My stop script is; /etc/init.d/httpd stop umount /var/www vgchange -aln fence_tool leave cman_tool leave remove -w Mike -- Linux-cluster mailing list Linux-cluster@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-cluster