Re: [PATCH v2] memcg: use ratelimited stats flush in the reclaim

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On 14/08/2024 00.30, Shakeel Butt wrote:
On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 02:58:51PM GMT, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 2:54 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The Meta prod is seeing large amount of stalls in memcg stats flush
from the memcg reclaim code path. At the moment, this specific callsite
is doing a synchronous memcg stats flush. The rstat flush is an
expensive and time consuming operation, so concurrent relaimers will
busywait on the lock potentially for a long time. Actually this issue is
not unique to Meta and has been observed by Cloudflare [1] as well. For
the Cloudflare case, the stalls were due to contention between kswapd
threads running on their 8 numa node machines which does not make sense
as rstat flush is global and flush from one kswapd thread should be
sufficient for all. Simply replace the synchronous flush with the
ratelimited one.

One may raise a concern on potentially using 2 sec stale (at worst)
stats for heuristics like desirable inactive:active ratio and preferring
inactive file pages over anon pages but these specific heuristics do not
require very precise stats and also are ignored under severe memory
pressure.

More specifically for this code path, the stats are needed for two
specific heuristics:

1. Deactivate LRUs
2. Cache trim mode

The deactivate LRUs heuristic is to maintain a desirable inactive:active
ratio of the LRUs. The specific stats needed are WORKINGSET_ACTIVATE*
and the hierarchical LRU size. The WORKINGSET_ACTIVATE* is needed to
check if there is a refault since last snapshot and the LRU size are
needed for the desirable ratio between inactive and active LRUs. See the
table below on how the desirable ratio is calculated.

/* total     target    max
  * memory    ratio     inactive
  * -------------------------------------
  *   10MB       1         5MB
  *  100MB       1        50MB
  *    1GB       3       250MB
  *   10GB      10       0.9GB
  *  100GB      31         3GB
  *    1TB     101        10GB
  *   10TB     320        32GB
  */

The desirable ratio only changes at the boundary of 1 GiB, 10 GiB,
100 GiB, 1 TiB and 10 TiB. There is no need for the precise and accurate
LRU size information to calculate this ratio. In addition, if
deactivation is skipped for some LRU, the kernel will force deactive on
the severe memory pressure situation.

For the cache trim mode, inactive file LRU size is read and the kernel
scales it down based on the reclaim iteration (file >> sc->priority) and
only checks if it is zero or not. Again precise information is not
needed.

This patch has been running on Meta fleet for several months and we have
not observed any issues. Please note that MGLRU is not impacted by this
issue at all as it avoids rstat flushing completely.

Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/6ee2518b-81dd-4082-bdf5-322883895ffc@xxxxxxxxxx [1]
Signed-off-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@xxxxxxxxx>

Just curious, does Jesper's patch help with this problem?

If you are asking if I have tested Jesper's patch in Meta's production
then no, I have not tested it. Also I have not taken a look at the
latest from Jesper as I was stuck in some other issues.


I see this patch as a whac-a-mole approach.  But it should be applied as
a stopgap, because my patches are still not ready to be merged.

My patch is more generic, but *only* solves the rstat lock contention
part of the issue.  The remaining issue is that rstat is flushed too
often, which I address in my other patch[2] "cgroup/rstat: introduce
ratelimited rstat flushing".  In [2], I explicitly excluded memcg as
Shakeel's patch demonstrates memcg already have a ratelimit API specific
to memcg.

[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/171328990014.3930751.10674097155895405137.stgit@firesoul/

I suspect the next whac-a-mole will be the rstat flush for the slab code
that kswapd also activates via shrink_slab, that via
shrinker->count_objects() invoke count_shadow_nodes().

--Jesper




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