Re: [PATCH v3 14/18] mm/memcg: Convert mem_cgroup_move_account() to use a folio

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On Wed 07-07-21 16:25:07, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 02:45:33PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 30-06-21 13:31:17, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 02:20:38PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Wed 30-06-21 12:22:48, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > We need to decide what 'NR_ANON_THPS' means in a folio-based world where
> > > > > we have folios of all orders.  Does it count only the number of pages
> > > > > in folios >= HPAGE_PMD_SIZE?  Or does it count the number of pages in
> > > > > folios > PAGE_SIZE?
> > > > 
> > > > At this stage we only have PMD based, right? I believe it would be
> > > > simpler to stick with that at the moment and change that to a more
> > > > generic way along with other places which need updating.
> > > > 
> > > > Wrt. counters they do count pages so in this case this shouldn't be a
> > > > problem. But we do have counters for pmd mappings and that might need
> > > > some care.
> > > 
> > > Looking at how these are reported:
> > > 
> > >         show_val_kb(m, "AnonHugePages:  ",
> > >                     global_node_page_state(NR_ANON_THPS));
> > >         show_val_kb(m, "ShmemHugePages: ",
> > >                     global_node_page_state(NR_SHMEM_THPS));
> > >         show_val_kb(m, "ShmemPmdMapped: ",
> > >                     global_node_page_state(NR_SHMEM_PMDMAPPED));
> > >         show_val_kb(m, "FileHugePages:  ",
> > >                     global_node_page_state(NR_FILE_THPS));
> > >         show_val_kb(m, "FilePmdMapped:  ",
> > >                     global_node_page_state(NR_FILE_PMDMAPPED));
> > > 
> > > it specifically refers to 'HugePages', so I think we need to only
> > > count folios with order >= PMD_ORDER.
> > 
> > Why? The presented value is in kB. It gives us a cumulative number of
> > transparent large pages.  Sure breakdown to respective orders would be
> > impossible in general but the same would be the case if order > PMD_ORDER.
> > 
> > I am not really sure how useful that information is in practice but that
> > is a different story.
> 
> The scenario I'm thinking about is a situation where we have gigabytes
> of memory in the page cache in 16k-64k chunks and we'll see
> FileHugePages: 5219348 kB
> FilePmdMapped:       0 kB
> 
> which might cause the slightly-too-clever user to think there's a
> problem.

Well, cases like this one shouldn't be really hard to explain though so
I wouldn't be worried about this.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs



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