> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 8:25 AM > > On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:21:24AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote: > > > > Basically each RID knows based on its kernel drivers if it is a local > > > or global RID and the ioasid knob can further fine tune this for any > > > other specialty cases. > > > > It's fine if you insist on this way. Then we leave it to userspace to > > ensure same split range is used across devices when vIOMMU is > > concerned. > > I'm still confused why there is a split range needed. a device could support both ENQCMD and non-ENQCMD submissions. for ENQCMD path, CPU provides a PASID translation mechanism (from guest PASID to host PASID) for non-ENQCMD path, guest driver directly programs untranslated guest PASID to the device MMIO register. the host kernel only setups host PASID entry which is hwid for a said ioasid page table. If we don't split range, we have to assume guest PASID == host PASID otherwise non-ENQCMD path will fail. But expose host PASID to guest breaks migration. If we want to allow migration, then need support guest PASID != host PASID and make sure both entries point to the same page table so ENQCMD (host PASID) and non-ENQCMD (guest PASID) can both work. It requires range split to avoid conflict between host/guest PASIDs in the same space. > > > Please note such range split has to be enforced through > > vIOMMU which (e.g. on VT-d) includes a register to report available > > PASID space size (applying to all devices behind this vIOMMU) to > > the guest. The kernel just follows per-RID split info. If anything broken, > > the userspace just shoots its own foot. > > Is it because this specific vIOMMU protocol is limiting things? When range split is enabled, we need a way to tell the guest about the local range size so guest PASID is allocated only within this range. Then we use vIOMMU to expose such information. > > > > > > It does need some user visible difference because SIOV/mdev is not > > > > > migratable. Only the kernel can select a PASID, userspace (and hence > > > > > the guest) shouldn't have the option to force a specific PASID as the > > > > > PASID space is shared across the entire RID to all VMs using the mdev. > > > > > > > > not migratable only when you choose exposing host-allocated PASID > > > > into guest. However in the entire this proposal we actually virtualize > > > > PASIDs, letting the guest manage its own PASID space in all > > > > scenarios > > > > > > PASID cannot be virtualized without also using ENQCMD. > > > > > > A mdev that is using PASID without ENQCMD is non-migratable and this > > > needs to be make visiable in the uAPI. > > > > No. without ENQCMD the PASID must be programmed to a mdev MMIO > > register. This operation is mediated then mdev driver can translate the > > PASID from virtual to real. > > That is probably unworkable with real devices, but if you do this you > need to explicitly expose the vPASID to the mdev API somehow, and still > the device needs to declare if it supports this, and devices that > don't should still work in a non-migratable mode. > It's not necessary. For real devices we use alias mapping for both guest/host PASID as explained above. Then we can have the guest to always register its vPASID with ioasid (just like map/unmap GPA to HVA), and then let host drivers to figure out whether that vPASID can be used as a real hwid. When it's considered virtual and a real hwid is allocated by the host, the mapping is saved under this ioasid to be queried by device drivers if translation is required. >From this angle, the previous IOASID_SET_HWID possibly should be renamed to IOASID_SET_USER_HWID. Thanks Kevin