Hello All, Since my last changes (allowing the websrv CG to use both NUMA memory areas) the system as a whole runs reasonably without trashing and also makes a way better use of memory. As such it really seems that NUMA node restrictions (memory wise at least) do not properly interact with reclaim. Is there a way to see how memory usage is on the different NUMA nodes? I have the impressions some reclaim was ongoing because memory allocation was ask on one node which may have been "full" and there only file cache was being reclaimed (in cgroups where memory.low didn't protect it). Thanks, Bruno On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 12:30:21 +0100 Bruno Prémont wrote: > On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 12:55:59 -0800 Roman Gushchin <guro@xxxxxx> wrote: > > In the meantime Yang Shi discovered a problem related slab shrinkers, > > which is to some extent similar to what you describe: under certain conditions > > large amounts of slab memory can be completely excluded from the reclaim process. > > > > Can you, please, check if his fix will solve your problem? > > Here is the final version: https://www.spinics.net/lists/stable/msg430601.html . > > I've added that patch on top of yours but it seems not to completely > help either. > With this patch is seems that such dentries might get reclaimed as a > last resort instead of not at all. > > I've added logs since current boot: > https://faramir-fj.hosting-restena.lu/cgmon-20201204.txt > https://faramir-fj.hosting-restena.lu/cgmon-20201205.txt > https://faramir-fj.hosting-restena.lu/cgmon-20201206.txt > with the memory evolution. Evolution started to degrade over past night > where memory usage started to increase from 40G tending to full use but > with only slabs growing (not file cache) and memory assigned to cgroups > staying more or less constant - even root cgroup's memory stats seem not > to list a great deal of used memory. > > The only cgroup not "sufficiently" protected by memory.low (websrv) has > seen its memory use somehow clamped to about 16G while it should be > allowed to go up to 32G according to memory.high and of those 16G in > use at time of writing it only had 100M of file cache left, all the > rest being slabs. > > > As system now is using most of its memory I've bumped websrv CG's > memory.low to 20G so it should stay protected some more (which after a > few minutes showed its filecache growing again) with the aim of moving > pressure out of leaf-cgroups to non-cg-assigned-memory. > > Somehow this move seems to prove getting me some success. > > > I will report back later today or tomorrow with more details on the > evolution with "no unused" memory. At least production service tends not > to suffer (more than from storage response time). > > > > I have the impression that memory reclaim now only looks at cgroup and > if it can make some progress it will not bother looking anywhere else. > > I also have the vague impression that distribution of my tasks on the > two NUMA nodes somehow impacts when or how memory reclaim happens. > > NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0-5,12-17 > NUMA node1 CPU(s): 6-11,18-23 > > CPUs MEMs > system: 0-3 0 > websrv: 8-11 0 (allowed mems=0-1 as of 2020-12-06 12:18 > after increasing memory.low from 4G > to 20G which did release quite some > pression and allow) > website: 12-23 1 > remote: 4-7 0 > (assignment done using cpuset cgroup) > > (seems NUMA distribution changed or I missed the non-linear node > distribution of CPUs - cores versus hyperthreading as my Intent was to > have website on 1 socket and the rest on the other socket. Memory is > mapped as I planned it, but tasks not really) > > > So calculating: > system: 128M..8G mems=0 \ > remote: 1G..14G mems=0 }--> 5G..54G > websrv: 4G..32G mems=0 / > website: 16G.. mems=1 > > But with everything except websrv lying below its low limit I wonder why > reclaim only hits the cgroups's file cache but still mostly ignores its > slabs. > > > Bruno > > > > Compared to initial occurrence I do now have some more details (all but > > > /proc/slabinfo since boot) and according to /proc/slabinfo a good deal > > > of reclaimable slabs seem to be dentries (and probably > > > xfs_inode/xfs_ifork related to them) - not sure if those are assigned > > > to cgroups or not-accounted and not seen as candidate for reclaim... > > > > > > xfs_buf 444908 445068 448 36 4 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 12363 12363 0 > > > xfs_bui_item 0 0 232 35 2 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 0 0 0 > > > xfs_bud_item 0 0 200 40 2 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 0 0 0 > > > xfs_cui_item 0 0 456 35 4 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 0 0 0 > > > xfs_cud_item 0 0 200 40 2 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 0 0 0 > > > xfs_rui_item 0 0 712 46 8 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 0 0 0 > > > xfs_rud_item 0 0 200 40 2 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 0 0 0 > > > xfs_icr 0 156 208 39 2 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 4 4 0 > > > xfs_ili 1223169 1535904 224 36 2 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 42664 42664 0 > > > xfs_inode 12851565 22081140 1088 30 8 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 736038 736038 0 > > > xfs_efi_item 0 280 456 35 4 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 8 8 0 > > > xfs_efd_item 0 280 464 35 4 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 8 8 0 > > > xfs_buf_item 7 216 296 27 2 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 8 8 0 > > > xf_trans 0 224 288 28 2 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 8 8 0 > > > xfs_ifork 12834992 46309928 72 56 1 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 826963 826963 0 > > > xfs_da_state 0 224 512 32 4 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 7 7 0 > > > xfs_btree_cur 0 224 256 32 2 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 7 7 0 > > > xfs_bmap_free_item 0 230 88 46 1 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 5 5 0 > > > xfs_log_ticket 4 296 216 37 2 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 8 8 0 > > > fat_inode_cache 0 0 744 44 8 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 0 0 0 > > > fat_cache 0 0 64 64 1 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 0 0 0 > > > mnt_cache 114 180 448 36 4 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 5 5 0 > > > filp 6228 15582 384 42 4 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 371 371 0 > > > inode_cache 6669 16016 608 26 4 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 616 616 0 > > > dentry 8092159 15642504 224 36 2 : tunables 0 0 0 : slabdata 434514 434514 0 > > > > > > > > > > > > The full collected details are available at > > > https://faramir-fj.hosting-restena.lu/cgmon-20201203.txt > > > (please take a copy as that file will not stay there forever) > > > > > > A visual graph of memory evolution is available at > > > https://faramir-fj.hosting-restena.lu/system-memory-20201203.png > > > with reboot on Tuesday morning and steady increase of slabs starting > > > Webnesday evening correlating with start of backup until trashing > > > started at about 3:30 and the large drop in memory being me doing > > > echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches > > > which stopped the trashing as well. > > > > > > > > > Against what does memcg attempt reclaim when it tries to satisfy a CG's > > > low limit? Only against siblings or also against root or not-accounted? > > > How does it take into account slabs where evictable entries will cause > > > unevictable entries to be freed as well? > > > > Low limits are working by excluding some portions of memory from the reclaim, > > not by adding a memory pressure to something else. > > > > > > > > > > My setup, server has 64G of RAM: > > > > > root > > > > > + system { min=0, low=128M, high=8G, max=8G } > > > > > + base { no specific constraints } > > > > > + backup { min=0, low=32M, high=2G, max=2G } > > > > > + shell { no specific constraints } > > > > > + websrv { min=0, low=4G, high=32G, max=32G } > > > > > + website { min=0, low=16G, high=40T, max=40T } > > > > > + website1 { min=0, low=64M, high=2G, max=2G } > > > > > + website2 { min=0, low=64M, high=2G, max=2G } > > > > > ... > > > > > + remote { min=0, low=1G, high=14G, max=14G } > > > > > + webuser1 { min=0, low=64M, high=2G, max=2G } > > > > > + webuser2 { min=0, low=64M, high=2G, max=2G } > > > > > ... > > > > > > Also interesting is that backup which is forced into 2G > > > (system/backup CG) causes amount of slabs assigned to websrv CG to > > > increase until that CG has almost only slab entries assigned to it to > > > fill 16G, like file cache being reclaimed but not slab entries even if > > > there is almost no file cache left and tons of slabs. > > > What I'm also surprised is the so much memory remains completely unused > > > (instead of being used for file caches). > > > > > > According to the documentation if I didn't get it wrong any limits of > > > child CGs (e.g. webuser1...) are applied up to what their parent's > > > limits allow. Thus, if looking at e.g. remote -> webuser1... even if I > > > have 1000 webuserN they wont "reserve" 65G for themselves via > > > memory.low limit when their parent sets memory.low to 1G? > > > Or does this depend on on CG mount options (memory_recursiveprot)? > > > > It does. What you're describing is the old (!memory_recursiveprot) behavior. > > > > Thanks! >
