Re: [PATCH RFC v4 00/16] new cgroup controller for gpu/drm subsystem

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On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 01:54:48PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 06-09-19 08:45:39, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Hello, Daniel.
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 05:34:16PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > Hmm... what'd be the fundamental difference from slab or socket memory
> > > > which are handled through memcg?  Is system memory used by GPUs have
> > > > further global restrictions in addition to the amount of physical
> > > > memory used?
> > > 
> > > Sometimes, but that would be specific resources (kinda like vram),
> > > e.g. CMA regions used by a gpu. But probably not something you'll run
> > > in a datacenter and want cgroups for ...
> > > 
> > > I guess we could try to integrate with the memcg group controller. One
> > > trouble is that aside from i915 most gpu drivers do not really have a
> > > full shrinker, so not sure how that would all integrate.
> > 
> > So, while it'd great to have shrinkers in the longer term, it's not a
> > strict requirement to be accounted in memcg.  It already accounts a
> > lot of memory which isn't reclaimable (a lot of slabs and socket
> > buffer).
> 
> Yeah, having a shrinker is preferred but the memory should better be
> reclaimable in some form. If not by any other means then at least bound
> to a user process context so that it goes away with a task being killed
> by the OOM killer. If that is not the case then we cannot really charge
> it because then the memcg controller is of no use. We can tolerate it to
> some degree if the amount of memory charged like that is negligible to
> the overall size. But from the discussion it seems that these buffers
> are really large.

I think we can just make "must have a shrinker" as a requirement for
system memory cgroup thing for gpu buffers. There's mild locking inversion
fun to be had when typing one, but I think the problem is well-understood
enough that this isn't a huge hurdle to climb over. And should give admins
an easier to mange system, since it works more like what they know
already.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch



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