Re: [PATCH] cgroup_pids: add fork limit

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On 2015-11-15 08:36, Aleksa Sarai wrote:
If so, could you share little more insight on how that time measure
outside of the cpu's cgroup cycles? Just so that its helpful to wider
audience.

Well, there are a number of things that I can think of that the kernel does
on behalf of processes that can consume processor time that isn't trivial to
account:
   * Updating timers on behalf of userspace processes (itimers or similar).
   * Sending certain kernel generated signals to processes (that is, stuff
generated by the kernel like SIGFPE, SIGSEGV, and so forth).
   * Queuing events from dnotify/inotify/fanotify.
   * TLB misses, page faults, and swapping.
   * Setting up new processes prior to them actually running.
   * Scheduling.
All of these are things that fork-bombs can and (other than TLB misses) do
exploit to bring a system down, and the cpu cgroup is by no means a magic
bullet to handle this.

I feel like these are backed by different resources, and we should
work on limiting those *at the source* in the context of a controller
rather than just patching up the symptoms (too many forks causing
issues), because these are symptoms of a larger issue IMO.
OK, what specific resources back each of the things that I mentioned? Other than setting up a new process (which in retrospect I realize should probably just be accounted as processor time for the parent), I can't really see much that most of these are backed by, other than processor time (and until someone demonstrates otherwise, I stand by my statement that they are non-trivial to account properly as processor time).

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