On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 22:01 -0700, Tejun Heo wrote: > Anyways, if you're root, you can keep doing whatever you want. You > could be stepping on the centralized agent's toes a bit and vice-versa Keep on truckn' sounds good, that vice-versa toe stomping not so good, but yeah, until systemd or ilk grows the ability to shut me down, I shouldn't feel any burning need to introduce it to my machete. > but I don't think that's gonna be disastrous. What I'm trying to > stamp out is direct usages from !root domains and !system-management > binaries / scripts. They absolutely have to go. There's no question > about it and I'll take totalitarian userland agent anyday over the > current mess. I get some of the why.. and yeah, it's the dirt simple usage that I care about most, not the big hairy problem cases you're trying to address. > Eventually, I think we'll be able to reach an equilibrium where most > things are reasonable and we'll be exploring the acceptable limits of > flexibility again, but right now, please bear with the brutality. > We're way over the line and I can't see a way back which isn't gonna > sting a bit. I'm and will keep trying to make it as painless as > possible. Keep on driving, and thanks for listening. Aaaooooo ;-) -Mike -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe cgroups" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html