mgr module 'orchestrator' is not enabled/loaded

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Hi all!
Faced sad situation I don't know where to dig to. That is why I am here again, hoping for hints.

Situation:
all the "orch" commands aint available and give error in mgr log 

mgr.server reply reply (95) Operation not supported Module 'orchestrator' is not enabled/loaded (required by command 'orch ls'): use `ceph mgr module enable orchestrator` to enable it
Mar 04 09:03:22 node2.ec.mts conmon[1238298]: 2025-03-04T09:03:22.842+0000 7f0659aed640 -1 mgr.server reply reply (95) Operation not supported Module 'orchestrator' is not enabled/loaded (required by command 'orch ls'): use `ceph mgr module enable orchestrator` to enable it


Of course I've tried to enable it as suggested, but it is already enable (always-on). Tried to fail/systemd restart - all for nothing. As I understood, orchestrator is responsible for listening as well on port 8765 to give Prometheus needed info. So, I also have "devicehealth" error, as nothing is on port 8765 where Prom tries to knock.

Thinking that maybe redeploy would help and having no possibility to use orchestrator, I tried to deploy new manager manually - the same story, orch is not available. 

Maybe orchestrator module in a crash loop? Where to check logs? There is nothing in /var/log/ceph/cephadm.log and nothing in mgr log.

I am really stuck. Any hint appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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